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tspore
03-17-2007, 02:03 AM
Full press release here. (http://fourthirdsphoto.com/vbb/showpost.php?p=77739&postcount=9)
Spec's here. (http://fourthirdsphoto.com/vbb/showpost.php?p=79322&postcount=12)
Users first comments here. (http://fourthirdsphoto.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=11069)
DPreview info here (http://www.dpreview.com/news/0708/07083009leica40150.asp)
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Blu-by-u
10-30-2007, 12:48 AM
Where is this baby?

Cicak
11-07-2007, 08:00 AM
Where is this baby?

hmmmm, the silence is deafening? where is this ghost lens?:dontknow: anyone bought this lens and how much? seems like no body knows?:hmm:

cifcap
11-07-2007, 10:06 AM
I don't think it's been released yet.

Cicak
11-08-2007, 10:49 PM
I don't think it's been released yet.

i think so but then unlike olympus, leica is totally quiet! very weird. they did mention nov release and now its nov but not even a sound!

Blu-by-u
11-09-2007, 01:32 AM
Could this be another Vapor Lens? As in Vaporware? :hmm:

drhoffi
12-29-2007, 10:49 AM
This lens is available in Germany. Costs 1299 €, as much as a new body of L1. I think, that's why nobody wants to buy it.

Bojan Volcansek
12-29-2007, 08:16 PM
This lens is available in Germany. Costs 1299 , as much as a new body of L1. I think, that's why nobody wants to buy it.

Well, compared to Canon 28-300f3.5-5.6 for 2200USD, seems like bargain?

Yours Bojan

olyinaz
12-30-2007, 02:23 PM
The price is nuts.

Oly

cifcap
12-30-2007, 02:49 PM
The price is nuts.

Oly

Agreed that's not a great price for such a slow lens Leica or not. Olympus' own 18-180 sacrifices 4mm on the wide end but gives an extra 50mm on the long end. The price is right as well. I'm dreading the release price for the 45mm f/2.0!

JW

Bojan Volcansek
12-30-2007, 05:56 PM
Agreed that's not a great price for such a slow lens Leica or not. Olympus' own 18-180 sacrifices 4mm on the wide end but gives an extra 50mm on the long end. The price is right as well. I'm dreading the release price for the 45mm f/2.0!

JW

I will post again:
"Well, compared to Canon 28-300f3.5-5.6 for 2200USD, seems like bargain?"
and haven't seen too many people complaining about Canon's lens price?

Yours Bojan

cifcap
12-31-2007, 02:13 AM
I will post again:
"Well, compared to Canon 28-300f3.5-5.6 for 2200USD, seems like bargain?"
and haven't seen too many people complaining about Canon's lens price?

Yours Bojan

I don't mind paying for what I want, but the Leica (and the Canon) is overpriced in my opinion. If I wanted a super zoom I'd go for the DZ 18-180.

JW

Bojan Volcansek
12-31-2007, 10:26 AM
I don't mind paying for what I want, but the Leica (and the Canon) is overpriced in my opinion. If I wanted a super zoom I'd go for the DZ 18-180.

JW

That view / opinion I can understand!

Happy new year to all!

yours Bojan

srf4real
12-31-2007, 11:12 AM
Well it is OIS, the only stabilized lens in this range for 4/3... I'd trade the Leica 14-50 2.8-3.5 gladly for the extra reach, but don't know if I'd find any takers on that offer. I'll vouch for the Leica glass, it is the sharpest resolution as anything I've ever seen - makes the 7.5mp sensor on the L1 look like a 12mp sensor.:wink:

Jay
12-31-2007, 10:42 PM
Hey guys, what's the big deal -- I don't hear anyone complaining about the 12-60mm lens going for just under $1,000! And, the new 50-200mm is significantly above a thousand and no one seems to be complaining about the price!

A Leica, 14-150mm stabilized lens -- sounds to me like a reasonable price if it really is up to Leica quality.

How many times do we hear that photography is all about the glass and not so much about the camera. If that is true then comparing the cost of a lens to the cost of a body is not meaningfull.

Let's wait and see the reviews -- it may well be worth the price.

Jay

cifcap
01-01-2008, 01:04 PM
That view / opinion I can understand!

Happy new year to all!

yours Bojan

To you as well sir! :smile:

JW

olyinaz
01-01-2008, 05:47 PM
Hey guys, what's the big deal -- I don't hear anyone complaining about the 12-60mm lens going for just under $1,000! And, the new 50-200mm is significantly above a thousand and no one seems to be complaining about the price!

A Leica, 14-150mm stabilized lens -- sounds to me like a reasonable price if it really is up to Leica quality.

How many times do we hear that photography is all about the glass and not so much about the camera. If that is true then comparing the cost of a lens to the cost of a body is not meaningfull.

Let's wait and see the reviews -- it may well be worth the price. -- Jay

Yes but both of those are reasonably fast weather sealed lenses. This LUMIX lens is rather slow, not weather sealed and IMHO over priced given the many 10x (or more) zoom lenses out there in this speed range (all of which are longer). Value is certainly in the eye of the beholder but even if this thing is as sharp as we expect expensive Zuiko lenses to be it's not going to be a good value in my eye any more than the Panasonic L10 is. For some reason Pannasonic/Lumix wants to charge a premium for rather un-premium products and I just don't understand that.

Do I regret buying the 25mm Lumix? Well no, not really because with a very good f/1.4 I'm getting something "premium" for the cost there but in the case of this lens I just don't see anything premium on the features list to justify the cost. And let me add that Nikon and Sigma offer super zooms with image stabilization for far less than the suggested retail of this guy so I don't see how that one item could be what's pushing the price on this guy so high.

Just me talkin'! Don't mean to rain on anyone's parade or get anyone upset.

Best,
Oly

srf4real
01-01-2008, 06:38 PM
let me add that Nikon and Sigma offer super zooms with image stabilization for far less than the suggested retail of this guy...
Best,
Oly
I just wish Sigma would start doing the same for 4/3!!!!

roger h
01-02-2008, 06:30 AM
For some reason Pannasonic/Lumix wants to charge a premium for rather un-premium products and I just don't understand that.

Do I regret buying the 25mm Lumix? Well no, not really because with a very good f/1.4 I'm getting something "premium" for the cost there but in the case of this lens I just don't see anything premium on the features list to justify the cost.

Best,
Oly

Oly, I agree that the feature set doesn't command the initial list price for this lens. Regarding Panasonic's "premium" though, having the L1 and 14-50, and now the 25mm, I will tell you that Panasonic is building equipment to a standard set by Leica. Now, whether or not that standard is worth the dollars invested is always subjective, and depends on your budget and the way you assess the value of your equipment, but... coming from the Leica world for the past 30 years, I can tell you that not cutting corners in production shows in the longevity and reliability of the equipment. Leicas have a reputation for never dying. I hope Panasonic's reputation (at least in their "serious" equipment) stands up as well.

Now, in the digital world where the average development cycle (concept to production) has been about four months, and the production lifespan of a specific piece of equipment has been about six months (except for Oly, of course) how important that Leica quality and longevity is to consumers may now be questionable. Time will tell. Personally I like it, but even I am not up for spending $4k on an M8 body.

Roger

Blu-by-u
01-02-2008, 05:55 PM
One fantastic lens..Not the brightest (3.5-5.6) but in daylight use, No complains. It adds the IS to my aging E-330.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2248/2157865658_b278f73f13.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2248/2157865658_b278f73f13_b.jpg)
14-150

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2348/2157870530_95376171fa.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2348/2157870530_95376171fa_b.jpg)
14-150

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/2157072881_3597f45139.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2379/2157072881_3597f45139.jpg)
14-150 + EC14

Blu-by-u
01-02-2008, 06:04 PM
Pros: A very good walkabout lens (28mm-300mm FOV) The OIS works in stabilizing the teleshots. Photos have more contrast and it fantastically sharp. It's light and the XSM is really silent. (I can say, it beats even the 12-60 in silent.) The lens is very well made.

Cons: Very expensive. Lens hood blocks the zoom ring. The Aperture ring is redundant in Olympus cameras.

Price Paid: RM4,750.00 (about US$1490.00)

Other info: Pictures as above.

olyinaz
01-02-2008, 07:33 PM
Good golly!! :smile:

Can I ask you to please start a new thread with some 14-150 shots and to please post a few at larger size (at least 1024x768)?

Thanks!

Oly

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joan55
01-06-2008, 02:12 PM
Oly, Check out his Flickr site, many more at 1200x800. This lens looks GOOD to me!

Thanks, Blu!!

Blu-by-u
01-07-2008, 06:23 PM
Thanks Joan..have not put the lens to it's paces yet..please be patient.

Godfrey
01-11-2008, 06:07 PM
I've only seen it released relatively recently. Yes, it's pricey and not especially fast. It does have OIS (and an aperture ring for the Panasonic/Leica bodies), it is a Leica design and probably a better made, better performing lens than the likes of Tamron, Stigma and other third party lens makers products.

The results I've seen from those few people who've acquired one so far seem excellent, near-prime-lens quality.

I won't buy one ... I prefer a faster, non-UZ lens and already have the ZD 50-200 ... but for many who want a high quality "one lens fits all" solution, it is probably worth it if you want high quality. Remember that OIS lenses generally speaking cost 35-50% more than non-OIS lenses purely for the OIS business. :-)

Godfrey

Blu-by-u
01-12-2008, 04:07 AM
High Quality? it's exceptional..I am loving it.:evilgrin:

Blu-by-u
02-01-2008, 09:56 PM
Oly, Check out his Flickr site, many more at 1200x800. This lens looks GOOD to me!

Thanks, Blu!!


Good golly!! :smile:

Can I ask you to please start a new thread with some 14-150 shots and to please post a few at larger size (at least 1024x768)?

Thanks!

Oly



Hi. Got back from the cold north and the lens held up well. I shot almost exclusively with this lens except for a few with the Zuiko 7-14 and a couple of macro with the Sigma 105. I have started a thread in the spotlight section on my harbin trip. (http://www.fourthirdsphoto.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=20769)

Size are small there but you can view all of them in bigger size on my flicker page. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/blu_pages/sets/72157603729088881/)

Cheers

olyinaz
02-01-2008, 10:24 PM
Very much appreciated.

Best,
Oly

Blu-by-u
02-19-2008, 07:14 PM
Someone asked me to provide the f stops of this lens..

14mm-f3.5, 18mm-f3.7, 25mm-f4.0, 35mm-f4.4, 50mm-f4.8, 70mm-f5.1, 100 mm-f5.4 and 150mm-f5.6

nrgaudet
08-27-2008, 02:38 PM
It is ridiculous how busy I've been since I got this lens. Haven't had time to really use it. Firstly, it is a great walkaround lens with a really useful everyday zoom range. It is smaller than the L1 kit lens when not zoomed out. The feel of the fit and finish is top notch. I was worried today about bringing it as I perceived it as a dark lens but it performed well indoors at a butterfly garden. Definitely the kit lens and other lenses are brighter but if you shoot at a slightly higher ISO and wide open with this lens it is fine.

A couple of example photos:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/2803337981_a27e800436_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2803344889_b33b3f7382_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/2803350601_1c75bb0765.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3196/2794858590_a17c806b1e.jpg

This just feels like a great lens to use everyday when you want an all around lens. There are still going to be times when I want/need a different lens, but I can see this one living on my camera most of the time.