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    Default Re: PMA Experience Day 1 & 2....

    Quote Originally Posted by RogerC View Post
    I wish that in mode B, with manual focus and manual exposure, the new cameras and the e330 would just take a picture and not flip the mirror first. Not sure what they are getting out of that, seems like a bug. I hope a firmware update can fix this, or we see it fixed in the production 410/510.
    The mirror has to be down for it to focus and exposure, it would need a different AF mechanism to work with the mirror up.

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    Default Re: PMA Experience Day 1 & 2....

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnmcl7 View Post
    The mirror has to be down for it to focus and exposure, it would need a different AF mechanism to work with the mirror up.
    So instead it sounds like they made mode B work with the mirror down. The drawback to this approach is most of the light is lost to the viewfinder, so these cameras won't be as good as they could be in low light live view. On the other hand, the E-330's implementation could have been better, so perhaps they broke even or even won a little on the change.

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    Default Re: PMA Experience Day 1 & 2....

    perhaps then
    this is why faster AF has been sought and implemented
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    Default Re: PMA Experience Day 1 & 2....

    Quote Originally Posted by acme View Post
    So instead it sounds like they made mode B work with the mirror down. The drawback to this approach is most of the light is lost to the viewfinder, so these cameras won't be as good as they could be in low light live view. On the other hand, the E-330's implementation could have been better, so perhaps they broke even or even won a little on the change.
    I'm perhaps misunderstanding you but the mirror has to be up for the E-410/510 to work as there's no secondary sensor. They will work as well as they can in low light, it was the secondary sensor which wasn't great for low light.

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    Default Re: PMA Experience Day 1 & 2....

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnmcl7 View Post
    I'm perhaps misunderstanding you but the mirror has to be up for the E-410/510 to work as there's no secondary sensor. They will work as well as they can in low light, it was the secondary sensor which wasn't great for low light.

    John
    It can be down if the reflex mirror passes enough light to drive the main sensor. This would allow the observed A-like autofocus and lack of double mirror slap, but would give the same compromised viewfinder.

    Or it may be a small misreportage. If someone gets to lay hands on one in a less hectic environment it shouldn't take long to figure out exactly how it was implemented.

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    Default Re: PMA Experience Day 1 & 2....

    set IS aside, this implementation of liveview is one of the nicest parts of these cameras
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    Default Re: PMA Experience Day 1 & 2....

    I have to say I'm not convinced yet, plus the lack of articulated screen blows it for me as I find it's one of the most useful aspects of the E-330 when using liveview.

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    Default Re: PMA Experience Day 1 & 2....

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnmcl7 View Post
    I have to say I'm not convinced yet, plus the lack of articulated screen blows it for me as I find it's one of the most useful aspects of the E-330 when using liveview.

    John
    Perhaps they should offer shades with a heads up display as an accessory, for use with the tv-out... It'd sure solve the LCD in direct sunlight issue.

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