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    Default FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    No longer for sale - The price drops are too much (I paid over $1399 for the camera).

    For Sale - brand new condition (less than 100 actuations) Panasonic DMC-L1 Digital SLR camera with Leica D Vario-Elmarit 14-50mm f2.8-3.5 ASPH Image Stabilized lens. Fantastic camera with classic shutter & aperature controls. Cost me $1400. Asking $1150 plus $15 shipping to US. Comes with original box and all accessories (caps, lens hood, strap, software, manuals, etc.) and SanDisk Extreme III 1GB SD card. Perfect camera!

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1100

    Price lowered to $1100 + shipping. The lens is worth that much by itself!

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1100

    Not to threadcrap but it's a fairly high price for what is technically a second had camera kit - prices have plummted on the L1, it's possible to pick up a brand new one for a similar price or less.

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    I am afraid I have to agree with Johnmcl7, it is really quite a pity that the L1 has mysteriously plummeted in value. Given the lens, the body practically comes free with the kit now?

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    The really sad part is that I just bought the camera & paid $1399 plus shipping for it. The lens is better than the Canon 24-105mm f4 lens (which sells for $1100). I never saw a price drop faster than on the Panasonic!

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    At these prices, I think I will be keeping the camera.

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    Quote Originally Posted by heavy wind lover View Post

    I would not trust that web site, at all. I had a really bad experience with a company that seems to run several separate but similar web sites, and that is one of them. If you've had a good experience with them, you're lucky.

    I think the lowest legitimate price I've seen on this camera NIB is just shy of $1100. But I haven't looked around that much.

    I've been on other buy/sell forums in which it was considered poor manners to publicly tell a seller they were asking too much for an item. The seller was free to choose an asking price, and buyers were free to decide for themselves whether those prices were too high. It worked well for that forum.

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    Quote Originally Posted by Will V. View Post

    I've been on other buy/sell forums in which it was considered poor manners to publicly tell a seller they were asking too much for an item. The seller was free to choose an asking price, and buyers were free to decide for themselves whether those prices were too high. It worked well for that forum.
    I disagree, I think it entirely depends how you do it - when I saw the price initially I didn't say anything as I didn't want to come across as intentionally trying to spoil the thread. On seeing no interest I saw nothing wrong with letting the seller know the price is possibly too high rather than waiting for a sale that probably isn't going to come as you seemingly would prefer.

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnmcl7 View Post
    I disagree, I think it entirely depends how you do it - when I saw the price initially I didn't say anything as I didn't want to come across as intentionally trying to spoil the thread. On seeing no interest I saw nothing wrong with letting the seller know the price is possibly too high rather than waiting for a sale that probably isn't going to come as you seemingly would prefer.

    John
    I didn't say I would prefer it, I just mentioned it as an example of an alternative paradigm.

    In any case, a seller with half a brain won't be "waiting for a sale that probably wouldn't come," but rather, come to the conclusion the asking price was too high.

    Mostly I'm interested in warning people against the web site quoting the $999 price, that was posted above. They are scam artists, plain and simple.

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    well I wouldnt trust that website either, they even got the name of the camera wrong??

    In any case, I dun think we meant to threadcrap but merely remarking that the value of the Panasonic has really plummeted since its launch.

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    To wade into this one with a foot in each camp here !
    Just from a different perspective.

    I have PM'd rather than posted) a couple of sellers in the past that the price they had listed was probably too high and given them the links to substantiating my opinion. I seem to recall that both times they adjusted a little bit.
    I did it that way so I didn't damage their sales opportunity.

    Not everyone is a bargain hunter - sometimes you just want (or need) the item now and missing out for the sake of a few dollars is not an issue.
    Especially if you have missed out before - say for example 50-500mm lenses
    In some cases the price being asked might appear higher, but there are sometimes benefits.
    - Often the seller throws in filters, bags and miscellaneous bits and pieces that have real value - sometimes without even telling you - thats a nice reflection on the great sort of people we have on this forum.

    - There are no state taxes on these private sales (which depending on the buyers location may make it cheaper)

    - It is often the case that the discounting vendor doesnt have stock to actually sell and you find yourself waiting for it interminably or just can never get it at all.

    - or the discounting vendor simply wont post overseas, or if they do, their method of shipping is so expensive as to make it not worthwhile. Whereas privately there is some good negotiation opportunity to save on freight by using different options - say USPS vs Express courier with insurance.

    In the case of an overseas purchase the issue of warranty is sometimes a moot point as the cost of dealing with a warranty issue from afar is just not worth it and I certainly have to factor this in with any purchases I have made - so what I am saying is that the New vs 2nd hand price comparison in some cases makes no difference - so long as you can establish the item is working.
    Buying second hand from a reliable source is a bit like having your purchase bug tested in advance !

    This is a situation of supply and demand and the market will dictate if the price is fair - so there is always the option of making an offer.

    BTW - I am in the market for an L1 and had almost hit the buy button on this one.

    Regards

    Rally

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    Default Re: FS - Panasonic DMC-L1 with Leica Vario-Elmarit lens - $1150

    I don't know why the L1 price dropped so precipitously but I'm glad it did: it motivated me to buy one and try it. I've found it to be an excellent camera in the 1000 photos I've made with it in the past week or two. It is definitely a camera that the review press has under-valued.

    I see that current prices have risen back to the $1200-1300 range, so demand has seemingly caught up with supply. If this continues, the OP should be able to get the $1150 that was being asked.

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