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    Default Re: My IR-converted E-1

    Hi Valiar,

    Quote Originally Posted by valiar View Post
    Can you possibly share any tips or info on autofocus adjustment?
    You do mention that you have adjusted AF - I am wondering how you did accompllish this. Is it done through the service menu?
    I saw the cumbersome adjustments the C and N people are doing to get their IR conversions to work and thought there must be an easier way.

    I just put a piece of an IR-filter in front of the AF-sensor and... - Voilá!

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    Default Re: My IR-converted E-1

    since some time ago I was very interested in making IRs - but the E-500 is not very qualified , cause of the exposure time, which is for my opinion to long . ( no matter - it works ...)


    Sorry- the links are no longer available ...


    after a request by Olympus ( by a very good technician ) , I got to know about the Hybrid-Filter , which includes the IR-Block-filter . This Hybrid-Filter is put on the CCD - so one could only change the whole CCD to get an IR-Cam ...
    Thinking about this problem, I got the idea to buy a small Canon G5 and make a conversion . I had no problems and made during the time a lot of pictures .
    However it's a great difference making photografs with a smal compact or an DSLR-Camera .
    And I had an E-1 ...

    Jens asked me for giving a view of my special conversion of an E-1 to an IR-Cam ...
    Ok - I did the steps all the way he described in his wonderful thread - but I used a quite different IR-Filter !
    It`s a cold mirror with rg 645 .

    The difference you can see here :

    And here you can see the work of my E-1 IR : http://home.arcor.de/stefi67_h/E-1%2...R%20Bilder.htm


    Thanks for all your help, Jens ,

    stefan

    Last edited by Kobold_IR; 07-23-2009 at 11:11 AM.

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    Default Re: My IR-converted E-1

    Those are great pictures. Thanks for sharing.

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    Thanks for the report Stefan,

    I'm glad it worked out for you.

    The effect you get from the cold mirror is quite different and interesting. I may buy one of those filters and play with myself in an E-1.

    This cloudy rainy weather that we have had lately is really an IR-killer. I hope we will have some sun soon so that we can get our IR cameras out of the bag.

    Now I'm looking forward to seeing more cold mirror shots.

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    Sorry - about knowing you have a lot of problems by conversing the E-500 I am in the possibility to explain why !
    The IR-Block-filter is a hybrid-filter, which is put direktly on the sensor. So you have to change the whole Sensor inclusive the base, where it is put in
    :-(
    That's the difference to the E-1 !
    stefan

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    Default Re: My IR-converted E-1

    Here is a lens for you
    http://www.imaging-resource.com/NEWS...urAASQpRU.html

    First fully corrected lens for the UV-VIS-NIR spectrum is introduced by Coastal Optical Systems

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    US$ 4,495 manual focus, manual aperture... Ouch!
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    Default Re: My IR-converted E-1

    Is there someone who will convert an E-1 (or other Olympus) camera? I would love to get my camera converted to IR. Just let me know how much, and, if reasonable, I will ship my camera immediately!

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    No response! Can any of the Olympus dslr cameras be converted over to IR-only photography?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: My IR-converted E-1

    After buying an E-3, i'm convert my E-500 for IR photo by myself.

    I'm buy a 720nm Ir pass filter of the size of hybrid AA:Anti IR filter, and put them at the place of old filter.

    I'm glue a tiny rectangle of 1mm tickness of the same filter (720mm) upside the AF captor (rectangular hole in bottom of mirror chamber) for restauring AF function.

    All is fine except i've one big dust on capteur, inside the chamber, and i'm not want remove all again for clean it, so i'm live with it and clean picture on post prod.
    Exemple of shoot with my E-500 Ir:

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    Belle photo Twanaar, good shot Twanaar

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrobinson54 View Post
    No response! Can any of the Olympus dslr cameras be converted over to IR-only photography?

    Thanks!
    have you even read the thread at all?
    All E-system cameras without IS can be converted without problems. I don't think anyone has dared taking an IS capable camera for conversion yet.

    I believe Jens is willing to purchase and modify an E-system camera, you should contact him for quotes.

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    Just a little update on my IR-conversion projects.
    (Yes - it is pluralis nowadays... I have converted seven E-1 bodies by now and I'm beginning to learn the pitfalls...)

    I bought a piece of the cold mirror that Stefan mentioned (it is the Cold Mirror sold by Edmund Optics) and mounted into my very first E-1 (with more than 70,000 shutter actuations in its baggage). The EO Cold MirrorIt has an IR/Visible cut at wavelengths between 650 nm and 690 nm and it has also a bit of transmission below 450 nm. This means that it transmits some dark red and some dark blue in addition to the IR wavelengths.

    Here are a couple of side-by-side shots that I took with the EO Cold Mirror and my usual Shott RG780 filter.
    You can click on the IR-images to see the full-sized images after some PP.
    I used a custom WB through an Expodisk pointed towards the sun..

    First out is a classic IR scene:

    EO Cold Mirror



    Schott RG780



    And here are some people raising a mast on a sailing boat:

    EO Cold Mirror



    Schott RG780



    And finally the steamboat "Stella" which I also posted in the Photos section:

    EO Cold Mirror



    Schott RG780



    and "Stella in visible for reference


    OK, maybe this can inspire someone to do some IR. Remember; it is still possible to do IR with an ordinary non-converted DSLR.

    Cheers, Jens.
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    I'm Inspired! Great shots, I like the mix of visible & IR the cold mirror provides. I have been talking with some of the people on the EO optics forum. I just paid for an E-300 from Cameta Camera along with a HLD-3 from BH Photo. I will attempt the IR conversion when I return to the US as there is just too much dust here in Iraq and dont want to take it apart more than once. Assuming I am sucessful in the converson I may start to convert E-1 / E-300's to sell. Once I get proficient at it I may take on work from other people but want to be sure I know what I am doing before I accept individual's cameras for conversion. (dont want to be buying people new DSLR's )
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    Default Cost of converting Olympus to IR?

    Is anyone doing IR conversions on Olympus cameras? If so, what camera model and how much for the conversion?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Cost of converting Olympus to IR?

    I have a converted E-1 for sale if you want one; €650 + fees and postage.

    Cheers, Jens.
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    Default Re: Cost of converting Olympus to IR?

    Quote Originally Posted by jebir View Post
    I have a converted E-1 for sale if you want one; €650 + fees and postage.

    Cheers, Jens.
    How much is this in US Dollars?

    Thanks,

    Rick

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    Default Re: Cost of converting Olympus to IR?

    Hi Rick,

    it is US$ 940.

    Cheers, Jens.
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    Default Re: My IR-converted E-1

    Hello.

    I think it's a very interesting idea and I'd really like to attempt such a modification myself. Unfortunately the images that came with the tutorial are no more. Could you please re-upload them or something? Pretty please

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    Default Re: My IR-converted E-1

    Hi MattJ,

    sorry about the images. My son's server is down and he working on a repair but he told me that there isn't any repair in sight right now (ancient hardware).

    However, I had the original post saved as a PDF document and Tony agreed to host it here : http://fourthirdsphoto.com/images/My...OlympusE-1.pdf

    So, meanwhile the server is down, I hope this will do for you.

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    I'm sorry but the images are gone because the server hosting them is down and I am not able to edit the OP anymore.

    Meanwhile, I have to refer everyone interested to this PDF copy of the OP - including photos.

    Cheers, Jens.
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    Thank you very much for answering so quickly

    I'm currently on the lookout for a cheap E-1 specimen I can work with.

    Hmm... by the way, how did you obtain the IR filter (3 mm Schott RG780)? I live in Europe and don't really have a clue as to where to buy such a gem (with proper dimensions too...).

    Do you think that it would be possible only to remove the IR-blocking layer from the old set of filters, put them back into place and use the camera with an IR filter screwed onto the lens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattJ View Post
    Do you think that it would be possible only to remove the IR-blocking layer from the old set of filters, put them back into place and use the camera with an IR filter screwed onto the lens?
    From what I heard its doable. but you might lose indefinite focus cause of a refraction that filter in front of a sensor usually makes.

    And now a question:

    I'm doing it on my old E300...

    can some one post a exact dimensions and thickness for a replacement filter on E300 main and and also AF sensor.

    Just to know what should I order!
    I found no company selling replacement filters made for four thirds
    So I would have to tell them the spec and don't want to open the camera to measure the size before I get the replacement filter in order to minimize the dust issue.

    Also someone have mentioned that for E500 you'll have to change the whole sensor? is this also case with e300 I think younger brother is more like E1?

    and

    With what should I glue the IR plate onto AF sensor


    You guys made my day with this topic, now just make it better

    Thanks in advance

    Boris

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    First, if you are not replacing the original filter with anything of similar (optical) thickness, the camera will way off in focus at all distances and there is no way to adjust the AF or the VF for that.

    For the filters, I'm using;
    sensor filter: 18x23x3 mm³
    AF filter: 10x14x0.1 mm³

    The original filter is 3.25 mm thick but I found that 3 mm works fine. I'm using Schott RG-series filters cut to size by myself since they are very sensitive to the PH level and the temperature. (I have had professional scientific glassware companies fail twice with the cutting.)

    For the AF-filter, I'm using a Kodak Wratten filter #87 cut to size by a pair of scissors and attached by two narrow strips of strong transparent office tape along the long edges.

    As far as I know, the E-500 and E-300 sensor boards are designed in the same way as the one in the E-1. The difficult part is to put the new IR-filter in place.

    Cheers, Jens.
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    Default Re: My IR-converted E-1

    Quote Originally Posted by jebir View Post

    The original filter is 3.25 mm thick but I found that 3 mm works fine. I'm using Schott RG-series filters cut to size by myself since they are very sensitive to the PH level and the temperature. (I have had professional scientific glassware companies fail twice with the cutting.)

    Cheers, Jens.
    Now I'm in doubt since in my country there's no way to find that kind of filter (Serbia). and cutting it my self is out of the question(unfortunately)
    I planed to order it via WWW. But now you say there is chance I'll get unusable peace of glass... Would you maybe be interesting in cutting and sending filters to me via UPS or in some other way (for a compensation)... (please PM me if thats a case)

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