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    Default Norweigan full test of the E-3

    The norweigan site Digit.no has done a very thorough and well made test of the E-3. It's very interesting reading for us who read norweigan.
    If you don't read norweigan, there are diagrams and test results that you will be able to understand anyway.
    http://www.digit.no/wip4/diwa-test_o....epl?id=153676

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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    That is a great review and - what I like most - it follows the DIWA protocol for testing. That leaves out most of the subjectiveness that we see in so many other tests.

    An interesting comment which was listed as a positive thing forthe system was:
    + Large choice of optics frok Olympus, Leica, and Sigma
    It seems like one of the major gripes was that the LCD screen was not sufficient for judging image sharpness upon chimping.

    Otherwise, a very positive report which also confirmed most of the positive responses the camera recieved in this forum.

    Thanks for posting the link.

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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    Quote Originally Posted by jebir View Post
    It seems like one of the major gripes was that the LCD screen was not sufficient for judging image sharpness upon chimping.
    That comment puzzled me a little. I would rather think that the limitation is the resolution of the preview image and not the screen itself, as you can always zoom in on the screen.

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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    Quote Originally Posted by jebir View Post
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    It seems like one of the major gripes was that the LCD screen was not sufficient for judging image sharpness upon chimping.
    ...
    I looked up the dictionary, and the nearest item to 'chimping' I found was chimpanzee...

    Can anyone please explain what 'chimping' means?

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    Are there somewhere online translators who can translate norweigan to english, for example?

    Would be interesting to read at least pluses and minuses in conclusions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttaton View Post
    The norweigan site Digit.no has done a very thorough and well made test of the E-3. It's very interesting reading for us who read norweigan.
    If you don't read norweigan, there are diagrams and test results that you will be able to understand anyway.
    http://www.digit.no/wip4/diwa-test_o....epl?id=153676

    /Jörgen

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    Quote Originally Posted by mronen View Post
    Can anyone please explain what 'chimping' means?
    Chimping means to look at the picture (on the LCD) just after you have taken it.

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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttaton View Post
    I would rather think that the limitation is the resolution of the preview image and not the screen itself, as you can always zoom in on the screen.
    Yes, that was sorted out in this thread by bobbified and drurywoodson.

    As it turns out, chimping beyond 5x doesn't reveal any further detail on the E-3 LCD and in LiveView magnified mode, 10x seems most appropriate.

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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    A nice find. Thank you.
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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    Has anyone noticed that average score for Olympus E-3 is just 82% while Nikon D80 has 83%! Looking just at the graphs of both it's clear that E-3 must be better.

    So, I summed all percentage values and divided by number of categories and the average score for E-3 now is 85% !!!

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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    Quote Originally Posted by Zijon View Post
    Has anyone noticed that average score for Olympus E-3 is just 82% while Nikon D80 has 83%! Looking just at the graphs of both it's clear that E-3 must be better.

    So, I summed all percentage values and divided by number of categories and the average score for E-3 now is 85% !!!
    The reviewer writes in the end in bold text:
    PS. The testchemes from DIWA have gone through a major update with an addition of 20 new camera features for eveluation, like dust removal, image stabilizer, Live View, face recognition, etc. The calculation of points for Olympus E-3 is there for not comparable to older tests. With the old scheme, E-3 would have recieved 83% while Nikon D40 would have recieved 78% with the new scheme. Also, I found a bug in the software in the scheme for E-3 which makes the correct total points to be 82%.
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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    Thanks, Jens, for the translation. I tend to think that this average score is kind of misleading. They should better avoid that at all.

    Cheers!

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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    was also wondering about the score they gave,, will be a quick reference that many will tie into for comparisons to to other cameras,,

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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    I found this summary of the Norwegian test at Photographyblog.com

    ""The Olympus E-3 features a rugged and weather-proof body and lens construction, combined with a number of smart and useful features such as Live View on a flexible LCD screen, super-fast 11-point AF, an effective image stabilizer and a large and bright 100% viewfinder. Despite its small image sensor with 10 MP resolution, the E-3 delivers excellent image sharpness and low image noise up to ISO 800. The new 5x wide angle zoom lens Zuiko Digital 12-60mm f/2.8-4 (24-120 mm eq.) with 25cm close focus, meets most photographic challenges and displays extraordinary qualities. The light and compact body/lens combination is a dream to work with and only a few design details spoils the perfect picture, such as no zoom at image review, a fuzzy enlarged image at playback, an annoying shooting mode setting delay and no C-AF with Live View. In a world of strict regulations on hand luggage, the E-3 should be the perfect choice for a wide range of professional photographers. It meets most professional requirements, although not quite comparable to the Nikon D3 or the Canon EOS-1D Mark III. Neither is the price, the size or the weight.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zijon View Post
    I tend to think that this average score is kind of misleading. They should better avoid that at all.
    Also note that the DIWA scores are only comparable within the same class of cameras. So you can't compare the score for a pro camera with the score for an amateur model. That's how I understand it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttaton View Post
    Also note that the DIWA scores are only comparable within the same class of cameras. So you can't compare the score for a pro camera with the score for an amateur model. That's how I understand it.

    /Jörgen

    It's difficult to judge which camera is pro and which is just amateur. I know some pros are using P&S cameras for their work. (well, maybe they are more artists than pros)

    I agree that comparison should be made between cameras of the same class, i.e. same construction, similar features and in the same price range. Reviewers should exclude comparison possibility with about everything or something using different evaluation methodology. Even better if they explicitly list all direct competitors. That would be fair.

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    Default Re: Norweigan full test of the E-3

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttaton View Post
    Chimping means to look at the picture (on the LCD) just after you have taken it.

    /Jörgen
    Thank you very much, Jorgen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinss View Post
    Are there somewhere online translators who can translate norweigan to english, for example?

    Would be interesting to read at least pluses and minuses in conclusions.
    Me. I can translate the conclusion later today.
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