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    Default Photographer of the year contest 2007

    Photographer of the year contest 2007 finals.
    The 2007 POTY (Photographer of the year) contest has finished. We have had over 40 people prequalify in a contests leading up to this. If you did not qualify I am sorry to say, but you cannot participate in this years POTY contest. Soon we will start our 2008 contest. (After a little break in January)

    The Prizes -
    An Olympus SLR camera- Unsure which model at this time still.
    A Lifetime account on Smugmug
    A 3G Lens Baby and macro kit
    Your choice of a think tank bag
    A couple 4/3photo Shirts

    Unless you prefer not to participate in a Blurb Book I think it would be very nice to have a Blurb book published with your entires from the POTY 2007. (If you don't want to be part of the published book, please just let me know in a PM)


    The Project - Each photographer will complete a photo essay called "My Town" What does that mean? Basically it is a photo essay (Which may contain words too) about the place where you live, or near where you live. Pictures can be from any time in the past, but all photos must be from a 4/3 body, and at least one photo must be shot between 12-1-07 and 1-20-08.
    You must use a even amount of pages with in the book (e.g. 2, 4, or 6 pages) but no more than 6 pages.
    The book size is 8(tall)x10(wide) inches in size. So a 2 page lay out will have a total of 8x20" in size.
    All entries must be submitted by 11PM (PST) 1/20/08
    All photos must be submitted to the community drop box hosted by yousendit.
    http://dropbox.yousendit.com/43photo
    Please include your forum username with the files so I can keep everything organized, and verify your entries.
    I prefer Layered PSD's, but tiff's will also work.
    I will post all the entries after the contest closes.
    The book will be full bleed, so if you use a background please make it full bleed.
    Other than the above rules, any type of photography is valid, e.g. Black and white, color, creative edges, etc.

    Please also provide the font names if they are unusual. I have a thousand or so, but there are millions of fonts... If you know how to do it, also please provide any unusual fonts. Thanks.


    A quickie example - I did this in 1 day of shooting, and put the images together in 5 minutes.

    The contest will be judged by me, and a few select individuals.

    Those who have qualified:
    (This is the list that I have kept in the running since the beginning of the contest, if your name isn't on here and you have qualified, please PM with which contest you placed in the top 4.)



    NOTE: I have changed the due date to 1/20/08

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    I'm in!!! I'll do my best with the layered PSD, although I don't own PS. My PSP XI will save as PSD, so I hope that will suffice.

    You can also count me in on the Blurb Book.

    Thanks!
    Mike

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    Hmmm. It looks interesting. I've never done a photobook before, so I might need some handholding. For example, what's the minimum/maxiumum dpi the pages would need?

    You must use a even amount of pages with in the book (e.g. 2, 4, or 6 pages) but no more than 6 pages.
    What about the front cover? I assume there is no back cover image (or is there?).

    "Full bleed" means the background must go right to the edges of the page?

    Thanks.


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    Julie,
    I'm in the same boat as you. I've never done anything like this before. Not that great yet creating things...but my current class has taught me some of these skills. I will try to pull this off the best I can.
    I'm might be asking a lot of questions though.
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    I wonder how I can do this one as macros... Dirts of... just kidding!

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    Quote Originally Posted by windsprite View Post
    Hmmm. It looks interesting. I've never done a photobook before, so I might need some handholding. For example, what's the minimum/maxiumum dpi the pages would need?

    You must use a even amount of pages with in the book (e.g. 2, 4, or 6 pages) but no more than 6 pages.
    What about the front cover? I assume there is no back cover image (or is there?).

    "Full bleed" means the background must go right to the edges of the page?

    Thanks.

    as far as i know (we publish archeology books at work) 300DPI is what you need.
    for the rest i have the same questions, especially what is full bleed?
    do we make our own book pages? (just to make sure i got it right).

    another point that is not covered and since most of our shots were taken in our town/city. can we use old contest shots? i prefer not to but i just want to make sure what is the rule.

    and to finalize things (i swear i'm not a lawyer) is there a radius we should focus on? since jerusalem is quite decent in size (700,000 people).

    thanks and i'll try to do my best.
    Assaf

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    I'm a bit confused about this too. With the example given it sounds more like a layout than a photo competition..?

    Will just a series of photos suffice as a photo essay? That is 2-6 photos that tell a story about 'My home town'?
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    Tony will probably pop by to answer some questions definitively however here's what I gather:

    - full bleed means that either the photo or the background on which the photo is placed extends to the edges of the page.

    - given Tony's sample image, it look as though we are to design the pages of our submission.

    - 300 dpi would be a safe bet, although it could vary slighly depending upon the printer that Tony is using.

    - This is going to be a lot of fun...

    Thanks again for your efforts Tony. It is really appreciated.

    Bruce

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    Hello,

    This is an interesting challenge indeed. Count me in. I have several questions just to better know how to comply with the rules.

    Are there rules for number of pictures ?

    Do we need to adjust the colors for a specific profile ? Are pictures set for screen or paper ? (Think about the reduced gamut of printable colors)

    I have Photoshop 6 which does not incorporates EXIF data, how will I confirm I have shot them with a Four Thirds body ?

    Does text need to be in English ?

    If I live in a rural area near a small town, will I be dismissed if I published woodlands or alfafa fields photographs which surrounds me for example ?

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    Thanks for the invitation Tony,

    I really appreciate all the effort you and Ann put into this contest, and I have been very curious about this final assignment.

    However, I regret to say that I most likely will have to give this a WO. With all comitments at work, at home, and away before Christmas and then a long trip starting the 26th, I'll not not have enough time left to make a submission worthy those fabulous prizes.

    I wish everybody Good Luck and: May the best man/woman win!

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    I'm really excited about this contest, and have some ideas for it that will hopefully work. I do have a few questions though.

    1-Is this purely a photo essay with words that reinforce the pictures, or can it be a mini-article with pictures? My article would only take up maybe a page, and the rest would be pictures.

    2-Count me in for the Blurb-Book, sounds like a great idea. My concern is designing a page for the book. Do we need to use the Blurb-Book software for the overall layout, or can we use PSP or PS? (The layout I have in mind is similar to National Geographic in style; no multiple images per page or anything.) My skill in this area is lacking, so any help would be nice.

    3-This was mentioned by mick finn, and I just wanted to double check. Will people with poor layout skills (me) be judged differently by the judges? I know that sounds very childish and petty, especially in a contest as subjective as this. I just wanted to see what type of criteria the judges would be looking for.

    I'm not trying to complain, I just want to know the best way for me to compete in the contest. Good luck to the other competitors and thanks to Tony for putting all of this together,
    Cameron

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    And now my massive reply - I will try to gather into this reply everything that I have gotten so far. Please ask again if I skip it, like always.
    3. I have ever try before to make a photo book but i only use MS Publisher, but i have never try with PS before, Could you please give me some or basic ways to process in PS?
    You can use Publisher, but I have never used that program for this type of work.
    Quote Originally Posted by rockgrabber View Post
    1-Is this purely a photo essay with words that reinforce the pictures, or can it be a mini-article with pictures? My article would only take up maybe a page, and the rest would be pictures.
    It is open ended you have to use your own creativity. There should be a major focus on pictures over words.
    2-Count me in for the Blurb-Book, sounds like a great idea. My concern is designing a page for the book. Do we need to use the Blurb-Book software for the overall layout, or can we use PSP or PS? (The layout I have in mind is similar to National Geographic in style; no multiple images per page or anything.) My skill in this area is lacking, so any help would be nice.
    You should lay out the project in a separate application.
    Here is how I would recommend that you do it. Make a 8" high by 10" wide Document at 300 DPI, next add in pictures, text and backgrounds (if you so choose) next take that document, and upload it to me though the drop box.
    You can use any application to create it, but I prefer of course PS, PSE, PSP. IF you can save the document in layers. So don't export it as jpeg's. (In case I need to make some changes.) Include your name on the corner of each page, to help me keep it in order.

    3-This was mentioned by mick finn, and I just wanted to double check. Will people with poor layout skills (me) be judged differently by the judges? I know that sounds very childish and petty, especially in a contest as subjective as this. I just wanted to see what type of criteria the judges would be looking for.
    For the most part, I am not planing on bringing in many judges. It will be a very subjective contest. So give it your best.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
    Are there rules for number of pictures ?
    No just use even amount of pages.
    Do we need to adjust the colors for a specific profile ? Are pictures set for screen or paper ? (Think about the reduced gamut of printable colors)
    Just keep it constant I would recommend sRGB.

    I have Photoshop 6 which does not incorporates EXIF data, how will I confirm I have shot them with a Four Thirds body ?
    I understand, and really in some cases there will be a trust factor for this contest.
    Does text need to be in English ?
    I would say yes about english, it is the most common language on the forum.
    If I live in a rural area near a small town, will I be dismissed if I published woodlands or alfafa fields photographs which surrounds me for example ?
    I think that would be nice. The purpose is to show where you life, be it city of small town. Its an attempt to truly show off a bit about the make up of this community.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZuikoGuy View Post
    - full bleed means that either the photo or the background on which the photo is placed extends to the edges of the page.
    - given Tony's sample image, it look as though we are to design the pages of our submission.
    - 300 dpi would be a safe bet, although it could vary slighly depending upon the printer that Tony is using.
    - This is going to be a lot of fun...
    Thanks again for your efforts Tony. It is really appreciated.
    You are correct. Usually in print material a real full bleed will be an extra 1/8 on all sides. But please design it your selves. You guys are the photographers, writers, and editors.

    Quote Originally Posted by mick_finn View Post
    I'm a bit confused about this too. With the example given it sounds more like a layout than a photo competition..?
    Will just a series of photos suffice as a photo essay? That is 2-6 photos that tell a story about 'My home town'?
    We have gathered some great prizes to help spur on this competition. So it is much more than just 2-6 photos. In theory you can place 6 photos on a page if you like. (Keeping in mind that you don't want them to small.) A series of photos would be fine if that is what you choose. I would definitely put more work into the photos than the writing, but no matter what you need to A. tell us where you live. and B. Explain the photos.

    Quote Originally Posted by assafx View Post
    do we make our own book pages? (just to make sure i got it right).
    I would prefer to put it all together myself. You just lay out the pages. 8x10x300 dpi.
    another point that is not covered and since most of our shots were taken in our town/city. can we use old contest shots? i prefer not to but i just want to make sure what is the rule.
    Good question. I would prefer not. But I am not going to scan through all of the old photos to check.
    and to finalize things (i swear i'm not a lawyer) is there a radius we should focus on? since jerusalem is quite decent in size (700,000 people).
    Its really up to you. In my example the sheep shoot is about 15 miles from my house. The train 2 miles.

    Quote Originally Posted by acme View Post
    I wonder how I can do this one as macros... Dirts of... just kidding!
    I think that would be.... um....

    Quote Originally Posted by ManeImpressions View Post
    I'm might be asking a lot of questions though.
    As you guys have questions please either PM me or put them in this thread. If in a PM I will most likely post general info here.

    Quote Originally Posted by windsprite View Post
    You must use a even amount of pages with in the book (e.g. 2, 4, or 6 pages) but no more than 6 pages.
    What about the front cover? I assume there is no back cover image (or is there?).
    Don't worry about that. I will put all of it together, Probably a winning photo on the cover, or maybe my ugly mug... Who knows.

    Quote Originally Posted by mistermike View Post
    I'm in!!! I'll do my best with the layered PSD, although I don't own PS. My PSP XI will save as PSD, so I hope that will suffice.
    PSP will be fine.

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    This is something I would really enjoy. But as I will be very occupied I will not be able to participate .
    I wish all contestants the best of luck and I am looking forward to their entries.

    Luc

    ... Of course as we note the date "day/month/year" this "All entries must be submitted by 11PM (PST) 1/7/08" gives me time until the first of July 2008 . . .

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    Thank you Tony for your extensive answer, that cleared out a lot of things. As I'm sure all other here, I really appreciate the effort you guys put into this wonderful site and the real value that a competition like this gives to an amateur such as I.

    So I'll try to dust off some latent layout genes and sharpen my pencil, and really try to bring out the capacity of photography to tie together various element and create a narrative.

    Thank you for the challenge, I'll try to make myself up for it
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    Uhm... can't we just deliver images instead of page designs?

    I think it is nicer if a book has one (elegant) design, instead of lots of different (and probably conflicting) designs!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcof View Post
    Uhm... can't we just deliver images instead of page designs?

    I think it is nicer if a book has one (elegant) design, instead of lots of different (and probably conflicting) designs!?

    I have just been discussing this with my dad (Kentomas) and I hope he doesnt mind me speaking for him, but we both agree with this.

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    We may be witnessing something of an insurrection here. There is no doubt that publishing and layout knowledge are necessary skills for a professional photographer these days, but most of us aren't. Ability to invest the kind of time necessary to do a good job of the contest's demands is also not a given, so we've seen a number of people bow out.

    Myself, I also have concerns about the scope of the project. I've looked over my images from the year and tried to come up with a compilation that was technically credible yet didn't look like a travel brochure, and it's been hard to find anything satisfying. In some ways I think I'd be better served if I lived in a small town that could be more readily summed up by a few images. I'm also slightly miffed that the project will greatly favour certain kinds of photography (street, landscape, architectural), and certain equipment (primarily wides).

    I'd be happier to "let things ride" on, say, four images from the year, in any theme, submitted in the 5-plus megapixel (uncropped or slightly cropped) range.

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    Well, I was trying to be the good boy and go along (and still will if Tony holds his ground - I ask your forgiveness in advance for any hack you see me present) but I have to admit that I think the scope of this project is more in line with publishing than photography. There, I said it. I don't feel any better, but I don't feel any worse either. A simple photo essay similar to what Tony presented in the Spotlight thread, http://www.fourthirdsphoto.com/vbb/s...ad.php?t=19676 , with, say, two, four, or six photos and a suggested word-count limit would be fair to everyone that is eligible. Just a suggestion FWIW.

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    Count me as a counter-revolutionary. We've known all along that the final challenge would be a photo essay, and layout and sequencing is a vital part of that. We can no longer simply take and post our favourite photo. The challenge of an essay is that the strongest photo may not make the strongest series: composition, colour, and context must all be taken into account. There is no one-size-fits-all solution that will create an acceptable layout for everyone. Yes, this is an advanced skill set and a demanding project -- I wouldn't expect to win a camera or a camera bag for taking a single photo of a fountain or a breaking wave.

    Quote Originally Posted by acme View Post
    I'm also slightly miffed that the project will greatly favour certain kinds of photography (street, landscape, architectural), and certain equipment (primarily wides).
    We are more limited by our imagination than our equipment. There is no formula for a winning image, and certainly no single technique or lens that will create a series. The point of an essay, especially one with so broad a theme, is that no one-trick-pony will make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matthew View Post
    Count me as a counter-revolutionary. We've known all along that the final challenge would be a photo essay, and layout and sequencing is a vital part of that.
    How long was that?

    Anyway, I don't object strenuously to it being an essay myself. Just that the theme is quite narrow. "My town" doesn't easily sum up in a couple pages, nor is the style demanded by this theme very much my forté. It would be someone's, though, I have no doubt.

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    As much as I dislike the idea of the final project being done in this way I have submitted my entry. The way I see it is its a 'photographer of the year' competition and this final asks for more than just being the best photographer.

    Though I also think there is very little point in us all moaning about it and should just get on and do it (infact I went out yesterday and completed my hptographs for this and submitted my entry at 1am this morning). It is not difficult to produce a layout, I have taken the attitude of 'I'm no good at this kind of thing so I'll keep it simple' and even if I do say so myself, I think it looks pretty good.

    So what I am saying is, I dont like it, but this is whats been decided so if we want to submit an entry to the final project we all worked hard to qualify for, well then we just have to get on and do it!

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    Default Re: Photographer of the year contest 2007

    I like your attitude Stumac.

    If those who has the time does their best in this final, even if they don't feel comfortable with the theme or technique, maybe there will be another corresponding POTY final for 2008 where other assets of each individual will be required.

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    Default Re: Photographer of the year contest 2007

    Tony,

    If someone wanted to do a two page adjoining layout then the starting page order would need to be set or known in advance.

    So can we specify the starting page to be Left ?
    . . . or how did you intend to lay it out ?

    Thanks Rally

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    Quote Originally Posted by stumac1985 View Post
    So what I am saying is, I dont like it, but this is whats been decided so if we want to submit an entry to the final project we all worked hard to qualify for, well then we just have to get on and do it!


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    Firstly:

    rally,

    to answer your question, I believe each pair of pages you get will be facing pages - I believe that's the whole reason that the entries must be even number (2, 4 or 6 pages) and why Tony said that the area to work with will be 8"high x 20" wide. I'm sure Tony will clarify if I'm wrong.

    Secondly:

    I'm probably about to make this post fairly long, but I can't quite understand why some people would have objections to this type of thing, so I want to try and make some points and offer a few opinions/ideas to those who don't like the idea:

    There are 42 people in this potentially - so far I've only seen 5 or so objecting and 2 have pulled out, but those who had to pull out have done so in a very gracious and 'non-disgruntled' manner I think. So I image most people are still probably cool with the whole idea.

    There cannot be one standard layout for everyone - this is not a book of photos - it is a book of photo essays - each entry in the book is a 2-6 page presentation, and the whole point is that each one be unique - all having a common layout would destroy half the point of the thing.

    You don't need to be a pro to do this - you only need to try and find a bit of creativity. Most people here who's photos I've seen already proove they have that by the photos they take.

    You don't need heaps of time - maybe more time is better if you really want to get serious and try to win, but still more importantly would be just to have a go I reckon. Tony provided an example which only took 1 day of shooting and 5 minutes to layout - this was a 2 page layout, which is all it has to be. Given that you only have to use 1 photo taken this month, and you can use any from the past, that would make shooting time even less possibly - I'm sure most people on here would have to have some photos in their collections already of the place where they live.

    I think the scope of the theme is quite large, there are many creative types of pics. and ways to represent things about your town that you could come up with.

    If you live in a big city, then maybe finding a way to represent it with only a few pics, or maybe just finding two 'things' which really represent the town and can in-turn be represented with photos is part of the creative challenge. Maybe regardless of the size of your place, the challange is in finding how to represent the whole place in just a few pages, or maybe instead chosing to represent the best aspect of viewpoint of it.

    I don't think this really favours certain types of photography too much. Sure, it could be landscapes and architecture, but why not think of how some pics of people could be used to show your town by showing the people it's made up of etc. (for example) - even you could take some macro pics to represent your town by the unique plants or insects in it etc. You could start to become less relevant to the topic like this if not careful of course, but it would still be creative if done right.

    Besides the above point, most photographers, even if they specialise in certain types of shooting, should still be able to take other styles of shots sometimes - having ability to be versatile and extend your range is always good.

    By the same token I don't think certain equipment is really favoured either - you could represent your town completely in close tele shots with big impact, or in wide shots, or in a mixture of anything.

    I also don't really think it's more inline with publishing than photography. Remember, it's not an 'essay with photographs' - it's a 'photographic essay', of which the photos are still the main part. Also remember you don't have to get complex - it only has to be simple.

    Some people may submit very complex and sophisticated design and layouts, which may give them an advantage. But others will do something simple, and with both photography and layout and design in general, simple things can often be the best and have the most impact in many ways. So everyone's in with a fair chance whichever way they go I think.

    The theme is not really narrow IMHO, there are many many ways you could choose to represent the place you live, and many varied types of pics you could chose to do it, from landscapes and nature, to architecture or people, or creative and abstract views of things to documentary style stuff etc.

    The style demanded for this comp - or any comp - will never suit everyone who enters - can't please all the people all the time etc.

    The whole point of competitions like this IMHO, is to inspire and challenge people. A big part of this, and what is good about having themes or certain requirements to meet, is that it makes people try something in an area they would not usually try - anything that makes you try to expand your skills and your thinking and creativity etc. is always good, and can also inspire you in the areas that you usually do work in, in ways you may not realise until it happens.

    Both 'matthew' and 'stumac' made some very good points in their respones too.

    Personally, I'm a newbie on this site. I'm also new to serious digital photography and four thirds cameras and also to competitions etc.

    I find this whole comp (even though I've only been here since last month) to be great. Even in the two entries I've put in so far, I have been inspired and motivated in a way that I never really have before with my photography (esp. given that I've never done comps or professional work before).

    What I've gotten out of this comp just in the last month or so has been great, and really given me new inspiration and encouragement with my photography.

    I am really looking forward to having a go at this comp - I'm not a brilliant photographer, and not very creative, and never done something like this before, but I love the idea of the challenge it presents and it motivates me to really try the best I can to create something. I think the idea that I'll be able to get a book with my work in it along with other people's great work is also rather exciting.

    Being new, I don't know all of who's involved around here, but Tony and Ann seem to be the main ones to do these comps, so big thanks go to them and anyone else involved for such a great effort all the way through, just as other people have said.

    Hopefully my comments will not cause more arguments or confusion etc., but may help some people who might have the wrong idea/understanding of the comp. (causing them to see it as negative) to realise it's not really like that. Maybe even given a few ideas to people as to the scope of things that could be done. (Of course I'm hoping that I have the right idea and understanding of it myself, in saying all this lol ;-)

    Thanks,

    Steve.

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