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    Default Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    From my visit to Jasper in September.
    1st try developing RAW using my trial of Lightroom 2, then finished in Elements.
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    Very nice! I haven't been there for many years, great place to take a camera.
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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    I like the shot Jim and the crop but do the colours look a little soft? I notice it in the sky mostly.
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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    Great shot, but I agree that maybe the colors are a little soft. I am not a fan of over processing, but If the saturation were increased it would really shine.
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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    Beautiful, Jim! I'm not sure I agree with those who want more color. Instead of increasing saturation, try the Vibrance slider. It's more subtle but sometimes does wonders.

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    I like the slate blue tones of the rocks. It's a really nice shot to being with.

    To me, the sky looks like a muted shade of blue due to some wispy clouds. Can't tell for sure, though.

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    OK, 2nd run with some fruit punch added
    I also reduced the exposure on the bare rocks on the mountain tops. The adjustment brush in Lightroom is going to be a killer tool for sure! I see Adobe added it into the ACR5.5 for CS3 & 4 but not for Elements, boo hoo, adjustment brush would really unlock Elements potential.



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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    Very nice shots Jim. I like them both, but the second one does it for me. It's not over the top on saturation at all.
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    I told ya! Save that $1200!
    My only suggestion would be to be careful with sharpening. There's a touch of haloing at the mountain tops but nothing severe.
    Your 2nd version is quite good!

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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowa2 View Post
    Very nice shots Jim. I like them both, but the second one does it for me. It's not over the top on saturation at all.
    Well there you go! I like the 1st better, the greens (in front) in the second appear saturated. But that's a subjective opinion.
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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    Don't drink the KoolAid. I'm with Paul - I prefer the 1st. Maybe a happy medium between 1 and 2?
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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    Jim,
    Your wonderful shot of Cirrus Mountain from Big Bend brings back happy memories of our vacation of a lifetime back in summer 2004.

    As for the PP, I also think that there's a compromise between versions 1 & 2 that ought to work best. I agree that #1 looks a bit flat - as is common using the ACR conversion - but IMO in #2 the sky is oversaturated.
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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    I agree with a couple of comments that suggest something in between versions 1 and 2. I like the saturation of the foreground in #2, especially of the yellow tree, but the sky seems a bit much. The nice thing about the Adjustment Brush is you can have it both ways.

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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    Nice shot, Jim. I've been using LR coupled with PSE as an external editor for a couple of years now. I'm finding that I can usually get all of my editing done in Lightroom, due to tools like the adjustment brush and the gradient tool. I've added the Dfine noise removal plugin and Pt Lens to Lightroom, as they function like real plugins instead of external editors. Scott Kelby's book on Lightroom proved a huge help, at least to me. I seldom use PSE for anything any more, and it looks like I'm going to bypass the latest version, as it is reported to be more cumbersome than its predecessors. You might try surfing around this link for some great tips or techniques:

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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    I really like this second one, Jim. If it were me, I'd probably give it a little bit of fill light to open up the shadow areas, but I don't think it's really necessary. Beautiful scene.
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    Default Re: Lightroom 2: Attempt 1

    Jim -

    First of all: That is some wonderful scenery.

    And I'm with Bootstrap and Nate; the second posting is a marked improvement. I really like how you got more green in the conifers and the color of the sky seems a natural blue, not overdone at all.

    Looks like you're on top of the learning curve with LR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Finnerty View Post
    Beautiful, Jim! I'm not sure I agree with those who want more color. Instead of increasing saturation, try the Vibrance slider. It's more subtle but sometimes does wonders.
    Beautiful image, I believe I could burn a camera up with scenery like that around. I agree with Tony, the viberance slider is a great tool.

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    Beautiful Jim. The only thing I saw about the photo was no snow. I've seen that mountain in pictures a hundred times but it always had snow on it, It's still a beautiful though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwyver View Post
    Jim,
    Your wonderful shot of Cirrus Mountain from Big Bend brings back happy memories of our vacation of a lifetime back in summer 2004.

    As for the PP, I also think that there's a compromise between versions 1 & 2 that ought to work best. I agree that #1 looks a bit flat - as is common using the ACR conversion - but IMO in #2 the sky is oversaturated.
    Jim,
    I should have added that one simple technique for toning down the sky in #2 without reducing the punch elsewhere is:-

    1. Go to the HSL/Color/Greyscale panel in LR Develop
    2. Select the Luminance tab
    3. Adjust the Blue slider - Move +ve to reduce the intensity.

    This technique works well in murky north-west UK where a common problem is that what bits of blue sky we see are often lacklustre and greatly improved by some gentle enhancement by adjusting Blue luminance -ve.
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    Jim,


    Version Number 2............Wowzer



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    Jim - I vote for #2 as well. Beautiful! One other thing you might want to to is straighten it a little. I find the trees angling to the left to be a little disconcerting. Makes me want to angle my head a little. But absolutely beautiful shot.

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    Montana Jim Another fine photo from you ! and #2 even finer. cheers Pete

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