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    Default input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    I've almost finished selling off my 4/3 gear (just hadn't used it much the last couple years) and as impressed as I am by the OMD, I think the price of the e-pl1 refurb at Cameta is going to make me jump into u4/3 sooner than I thought. (I was thinking of waiting for the OMD successer to drop the price and pick one up)

    I can get a refurb w/ 14-42 for ~$200. I *really* love my 12-60 for landscapes and was thinking I'd miss that 12mm range. Should I forgoe the 14-42 kit lens (body only e-pl1 is $150) and pick up a 12-50 off ebay? I think IQ and size/weight would be my largest compromises to get the extra 2mm on the wide end.

    Just some thoughts that entered my mind before pulling the trigger on a new system!

    thanks in advance,

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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    12-50mm is far cry from 12-60mn. Ironically, it's worst at 12mm.
    Second hand 14-42 or the ones from the kit are much cheaper and better value
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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    I sorted this out and am going to get (already bought) the r II version of the 14-42. The second version of the m14-42. Selling use on eBay and other sites from $80 to $100. Then I am going to get the E-PL2 (already have the E-Pl1), or the E-pl3, as an intermediary to the Pen follow up to the em-5, unless I see some serious price drops on the 5 at the time the PEN followup arrives.

    I feel like Olympus has to wring as much money out of the EM-5 before the PEN arrives. It doesn't look like the used market for EM-5 models is going to spin up very soon. Only seen two on eBay so far and one on Olympus forums, and selling for near new prices.

    Don't you just hate when a company produces a kickass camera that won't drop in price. Looks from what I read like the EM-5 is wreaking some havoc on the over hyped Fuji X1Pro.

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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    Either stick with the kit lens, splurge on the Panasonic 12-35mm F2.8, or use primes. If you must have a zoom, and the 12-35mm is too costly, then stick with regular four-thirds. An E-620 and 14-54mm is cheaper and nearly as small as a zoom on an mFT camera, very similar image quality, and there's no zooms in mFT that compares with the popular four HG zooms (11-22mm, 14-54mm, 12-60mm, 50-200mm).
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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    I think it comes down to whether the additional 2mm at the wide end will be worth the extra $200 to you. Remember that if you use the lens for, say, 5 years, that breaks down to $40 per year to have that feature. In terms of sharpness, I don't think there is an advantage over the 14-42. However, there are a number of direct comparisons floating around on the web now, so you can judge for yourself.
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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    Quote Originally Posted by surfstar View Post
    I've almost finished selling off my 4/3 gear (just hadn't used it much the last couple years) and as impressed as I am by the OMD, I think the price of the e-pl1 refurb at Cameta is going to make me jump into u4/3 sooner than I thought. (I was thinking of waiting for the OMD successer to drop the price and pick one up)

    I can get a refurb w/ 14-42 for ~$200. I *really* love my 12-60 for landscapes and was thinking I'd miss that 12mm range. Should I forgoe the 14-42 kit lens (body only e-pl1 is $150) and pick up a 12-50 off ebay? I think IQ and size/weight would be my largest compromises to get the extra 2mm on the wide end.
    I'd avoid the E-PL1 and the original 14-42mk1 kit lens. The E-PL1 controls are problematic and the 14-42mk1 suffers from being flimsy and very slow to AF. For $300 you can get a refurbished E-PM1/14-42 kit which has neither problem.

    As to lenses, there's no good match for the 12-60 on m4/3. If you can live with a more limited range, the Panasonic 14-45 is the sharpest of the m4/3 zooms in the standard range aside from the $1300 12-35, and the 14-45 can be found secondhand for <$200. It's not as fast aperture-wise as the Olympus ZD 14-54, but it's very nearly as sharp.

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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    I'm with DH here, make sure you've had good play with an E-PL1 before you buy one - on paper it seemed like a great solution to me but when I actually used it, its controls drove me mad, hated the feel of it, I even felt that even though the pics often looked good there was some funny processing going on, fortunately my brother in law wanted a new camera, so he's got it now and loves it.

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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    Yes, I spent quite a while pondering after reading some good and bad reviews on the e-pl1 – but at least all agreed on great IQ. I almost went another route (14-150mm even), but settled on it and will put up with clunky handling for an intermediate camera, for now. I think the low price swayed me, so that I won’t be investing enough to start a m4/3 system yet, just something to try out. I also reasoned I could just stitch a couple shots together when I really need that wider angle, as the 12-50 sounds a bit disappointing to me (exact range I wanted in a walkaround lens though!).

    It should be something to better my P&S quality until I figure out what system would fit me best and also to see how much I will use a ‘better’ camera again (my 4/3 stuff really sat unused for too long!).

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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    I don't know what the E-PL1 is like, but I loved the ergonomics of the E-PL2. But you may want to factor in the cost of the electronic viewfinder, which I found essential to make it usable as a "serious" camera. Which reminds me, I am sellting my mint E-PL2, the new 14-42 IIR that came with my E-M5, and the VF-2. PM me if you're interested.
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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    12-50 IQ seems better to me than what I'd read about it, but I went that route in part because the weatherproofing made sense paired with the E-M5. Even with a non-weatherproofed camera there's certainly a benefit to that. Am also surprised at the macro capability, which is pretty good, and focus speed, which is brilliant. But it's no 12-60.

    The biggest downside is the length, which makes the camera less stowable than with a collapsible zoom. Have had mine two months and don't regret the choice.

    Cheers,

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    Default Re: input: buying e-pl1 - 14-42 vs 12-50?

    Quote Originally Posted by surfstar View Post
    Yes, I spent quite a while pondering after reading some good and bad reviews on the e-pl1 – but at least all agreed on great IQ. I almost went another route (14-150mm even), but settled on it and will put up with clunky handling for an intermediate camera, for now. I think the low price swayed me, so that I won’t be investing enough to start a m4/3 system yet, just something to try out. I also reasoned I could just stitch a couple shots together when I really need that wider angle, as the 12-50 sounds a bit disappointing to me (exact range I wanted in a walkaround lens though!).

    It should be something to better my P&S quality until I figure out what system would fit me best and also to see how much I will use a ‘better’ camera again (my 4/3 stuff really sat unused for too long!).
    Its hard to see how you can go wrong with the EPL1 at that price. My wife has an EPM1 and I have found the IQ of the EPL1 is better (with either 14-42 lens), and the extra manual controls I prefer as well. I also think the 14-42 is very under rated.
    As a stand-in and perhaps 2nd camera when you get the EM5, you can't do much better.
    Cheers,
    Don

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