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    Default Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)


    Photokina 2012 -


    I was particularly drawn to the last few sentences:
    DK: Frankly, I am personally still not quite convinced with the CSC concept. The bright clean real picture seen through an optical viewfinder still is a great advantage of DSLR cameras.
    TT: That is right, but the EVF also have its advantages, and we all know them. Let's see in a three years - we will have new EVFs that should satisfy even the most critical photographers.

    DK: OK, so I wish you to make the ideal EVF then! Good luck with all your products, and thank you for the interview.
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    I'm glad to hear that they will be upgrading their evf's as well. According to 43rumors this is what will be in olympus' next generation of evf's: Epson Develops New Ultimicron Panel for Electronic Viewfinders (September 18, 2012) - Newsroom - Epson

    More info about the B.I.G. Shift Lens 4,5/15mm MFT. New Epson panel for future Olympus cameras? | 43 Rumors

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    DK: So it won't necessarily be a DSLR camera? Just some type of digital camera. Or do you mean you're developing different models?

    TT: We like to provide the products for the 4/3 lens users. Most importantly, we like to provide new products that they can use. Ability of fast autofocus is the main point and the main problem. It can be solved in different ways, and it could be a DSLR camera, or it could be not. We are convinced about the 4/3 users, we like the product, we can utilise this 4/3 lenses. Additionally, we are now considering a solution to have a smaller size products. The 4/3 lenses are quite big, so what would the best size of the product be?
    I could literally answer this question -> E-5 size body
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinM View Post
    I could literally answer this question -> E-5 size body
    The GH3 works.

    I don't see what the big deal is personally. As a professional shooter, I've always had lenses which far outweigh my bodies. You hold them by the lens, not the body. It's the exact same thing using larger lenses on a Micro Four-Thirds body, the only difference is that the point at which you shift from body support to lens support comes sooner. Totally a non-issue if you ask me. Small lenses are advantageous because they allow a small overall package and greater enhances the ideal of MIcro Four-Thirds, but that doesn't make larger lenses disadvantaged in size any more than they already were on any other system.
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    Im actually looking forward to implementations and improvements to EVF technology in replacing OVF. Main drawback of OVF is it goes dark when picture is taken.
    Last night I was taking some 40 + seconds exposures and dark frame for 80 second is what you get. With EVF they would be able to make screen in screen (like on TVs) so we can still follow subject while we are doing 10fps barrage (for ex.). The technology is there, as evident in EM5 where you can take a long exposure and while doing so watch the picture developing on your LCD.

    When EVF address ALL shortcomings of OVF and improve on it's best advantages, we will see the OVF fade the same way as we saw all analogue technologies (film comes to mind, or analog TV broadcast, etc...).
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    Yeah, I totally agree with you. Going digital and removing the old mechanical setbacks allow us to open up a far greater world of potential and develop new technologies with the groundwork to make them work. Doesn't mean we're there yet, but that we've made it possible with the non-reflex system.
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by davidh202 View Post
    I'm hanging in there for the duration and, despite the temptation of cheap FF!!
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    Just surprised they can't give us an idea when we can expect an EM-7/E-7 or whatever it is... ?

    The "gossips" are ranging between the end of the year (EM-7) or second half of 2013 (E-7).

    I can wait but just want more precise info from Oly !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Bradley View Post
    The size of a body is not only important when you are actually taking a shot, i.e. holding the camera/lens with two hands, but also during the times you are just walking around, camera in hand. When we are traveling, I sometimes carry my E-30 with the 50-200 on it in my hand for hours, and with my modded strap, there is little strain on my hand. The same lens on my 620 the year before with the same strap was doable, but more tiring. Forget an OM-D unless you have a grip screwed onto it. To me, the E-30 is about the right size for a new 4/3 body.
    This is an entirely personal thing, I think, because we have different styles for how we use our equipment, different experiences with older equipment, etc. I have, until recently, been a MF shooter - - TLR (Mamiya C-XXX w/ interchangeable lenses) and SLR (Bronica S2A) kits. My wife had OM-1s & 2s and I always found them too small to hold comfortably unless I put the winder on them - - even if I didn't use it. I have the same problem now with the E-30... and with the Grip, the E-30 is absolutley perfect - - the best weight and balance I have ever used. Without the grip, it is unbalanced and I always feel like I'm going to drop it. I have never held one of the newer models, e.g., EM-5, OM-D, but I fear that would be the same. I mostly use the 14-54 and 50-200, plus my 2 Nikkor PC lenses, and none of them are particularly small or light... so I'm sure that influences by sense of unbalance without the grip... I, too, could see a new small body (~E-30 sized) as long as there is a good grip to be attached that basically becomes a permanent fixture on the camera.
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    I do wonder if their lack of specifics is at least in part influenced by the issue of whether to accept Sony's cash and if they do, does Sony have restrictions on the camera division.

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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    My guess, since that's all we have are guesses, is corporate has the camera division on an extremely short leash WRT product development and they literally don't know what the future of 4/3 is. I dont' think it's lack of desire to keep it going, and am reasonably confident they have a "traditional" E-5 replacement in some stage of development but do not have a green light to take it further. Their longterm plan seems to be to render trditional dslr design irrelevant, but when will the technology be ready to bring such a camera to market? The E-series' future may hinge on that very question.

    Anybody who's worked for a very large corporation knows what it's like to be kept in the dark, growing mushrooms. The shareholders always come first.

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    Am I the only one who's never had a problem with a "dark" OVF? Even the E-300 was ok. I must have good night vision then. I'd rather have a dim viewfinder at times than to have to have the camera powered on to see through it. As a glasses wearer, the sensors for turning on the EVF when your eye meets the viewfinder don't work for me. Also, our eyes will always have greater dynamic range than a sensor and LCD viewfinder. EVFs will never look as good in high contrast situations.
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    If it's going to be a small camera, just supply it with a grip.
    No way a "grip" should cost close to $300.
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    so only another 3 years to wait
    what year is it again ?
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    Quote Originally Posted by Riley View Post
    so only another 3 years to wait
    what year is it again ?
    Exactly.. we could be waiting till the next Photokina in 2 years and they would still be studying it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by harjtt View Post
    studying
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedKurkowski View Post
    I do wonder if their lack of specifics is at least in part influenced by the issue of whether to accept Sony's cash and if they do, does Sony have restrictions on the camera division.

    I'm not sure that Sony gives a damn what Olympus does with cameras. It seems to me that they are looking at the more lucrative medical and industrial imaging segment. Endoscopes are a very big business, particularly with aging populations and an increasing need for colonoscopies.
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    DxO results for OMD are up

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    Im not starting a thread on it
    bugger em
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Bradley View Post
    Guess you would need REALLY high ISO for that....
    Not sure about ISO, but those snaky little cameras have a seriously bright light on the business end. When they say take your camera and shove it, they mean business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnicklin View Post
    Not sure about ISO, but those snaky little cameras have a seriously bright light on the business end. When they say take your camera and shove it, they mean business.

    I worked on the practice design for the Colon Cancer Screening Clinic at the University of Calgary School of Medicine in 2007/08. We went with Pentax scopes, for no particular reason except the doctors liked them. Even with the sensor technology back then, the images were very very good.
    But were they suitable for framing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkeeney View Post
    But were they suitable for framing?
    As a matter of fact, yes, some of them were.
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    My old 50-200 gets quite a bit of use on the EM5. Hate to say it, but the current M43 tele zooms sort of suck... strictly bright light use only, and what fun is that? When shooting, the combination of EM5+grip+50-200 handles very well. Just carrying around, it is somewhat nose heavy, but if the choice is to bring the EM5+50-200 or EM5+MZD 14-150... I bring the 50-200. Any awkwardness from walking around with the big lens on the smaller body is forgotten when I see the results.

    My smaller ZD's do even better: 7-14 handles okay, 8FE handles well, and my beloved PL25 works very well on the EM5, even AF's decently.

    The 14-150 is a handy focal length to have, and it's a tiny lens, but it's just too slow. Soft in anything but bright light. Nor does high ISO help, it doesn't turn a slow lens into a fast lens, it turns a slow lens into a soft lens.

    Yes, I did see the PL14-150 for sale... that's tempting...
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    To make the m4/3 system attractive, to me at least, Olympus needs to come up with better glass native to the m4/3 ecology. It needs to be faster glass as Trapperjohn points out and it needs to be native m4/3. I have tried hanging my 4/3 lenses on my wife's Lumix G10 and they work, but the balance is all wrong as far as I'm concerned. The issue of ever smaller bodies in aging hands is another issue. If we are adding grips and battery packs to make the body bigger, I'm not sure it makes sense. To me it's like buying a tiny car like the Smart Car, because its good for parking and easy on gas, then fitting it with monster tires and hauling a trailer around all the time to make it more like the truck we needed in the first place.
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    Default Re: Interview with Olympus representative Toshiyuki Terada (Photokina 2012)

    Yup. For the moment, 4/3 is home to a renaissance of sorts of fast, sharp primes; zooms, not so much. Panny is making some efforts with faster, high-end zooms but Oly has yet to tip their hand. Since I'm in the camp with those who maintain Oly makes the industry's best zooms, I'm counting on their eventually filling the niche, regardless of what Panny does.

    FWIW I find the Lumix 7-14 and 12-35 to be worthy, even if I don't own either. And the 75/1.8 is drool-worthy to anybdoy who appreciates cutting-edge optics. Trying. To. Resist. Temptation.

    At the other end of the price and and ambition scale, I used the lowly M40-150 and E-M5 in the mountains yesterday, and was pleasantly reminded of how much one gets from that lens in either version. Not to mention I carried a camera, two zooms and a prime at less weight and bulk than my E-5 and one zoom.

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    I wonder why we have not seen some upgrades to the existing SHG lenses for use with micro 4/3rds? I do not have the 14-54 but its Mk II makeover is reported to have helped it do contrast detection focussing. Maybe the bits of SHG glass that are moved for focussing are too heavy to be moved around repeatedly by the slightly smaller EM-5 battery?

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