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    Just had a hands on look at an OM D with the 12-50 and
    all I can say is WOW!
    I guess it is time to move my E5 E620 and assorted lenses-
    That OM D is one slick rig-
    Anyone have any pros/cons especially when switching
    from 4/3rds?
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    It can't really drive the 4/3 lenses (focusing speed is ridiculous) and the native u4/3 zooms are optically pretty poor, so stick with the primes. There are plenty of great primes in interesting focal lengths and very nice apertures. I am finding a strong tendency to take the OMD out instead of the E5, unless I am feeling very serious about what I am shooting. I think the OMD sensor is a lot better than that in the E5, and this also pushes me towards the smaller camera, especially in low light.
    Hope this helps.

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    Primarily the smaller lens collection, especially fast teles. Otherwise the E-M5 is a super, little (really, really little) camera I enjoy owning. Although I kept my 4/3 gear, too.

    E-M5 files process differently from the familiar Panasonic chip images, so there's a learning curve. And you'll stop underexposing everything to avoid blown highlights. Honest.

    If you have a favorite lens or two, consider an adapter rather than selling them off. The E-M5 will wring a lot more from them with the only downside is slow focus lock.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishtug View Post
    Just had a hands on look at an OM D with the 12-50 and
    all I can say is WOW!
    I guess it is time to move my E5 E620 and assorted lenses-
    That OM D is one slick rig-
    Anyone have any pros/cons especially when switching
    from 4/3rds?

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    Default Re: OM D

    Now just think about those features of the OM-D being put into a full four-thirds E-5 frame.
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    @Alan, you are aware of the two new zooms from Panasonic - 12-35mm f/2.8 and 35-100mm f/2.8? I don't think they fit the "optically pretty poor" category.
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    Fair comment. I am aware of them, but having spent quite a bit on shitty u4/3 zooms, knowing their theoretical limitations, and having the unlimited (technically) 4/3 equivalents, I am unlikely to buy them. I really enjoyed the OM system (which was also crap if your bought the zooms) and feel very at home with the OMD with primes. Personally, I haven't seen any samples from any Panasonic lens that matches the 14-35, 35-100 Olympus lenses. I'm not saying you are wrong...

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    I am not sure if the new f/2.8 are any matches for the ZD 14-35mm and 35-100mm; there probably are only two or three zooms out there that can do that.

    But from the samples I have seen, the Panasonic zooms are a match for the ZD 14-54mm, ZD 12-60mm and ZD 50-200mm lenses. And that's plenty good enough for me.
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    OMD is a great camera, but it really needs primes to work well, both in terms of size and image quality.

    12-50mm is far, far from 12-60mm SWD FT lens. It's good for what it is, but there's no point in buying such fantastic camera and crippling it with such lens.
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    The OMD is still on 1.1 firmware. New firmware 1.5 is supposed to help with auto focus on 4/3 thirds lenses. That said, Imhad my 50-200mm F2.8 mounted on the OMD and it worked fine. I was photographing the moon and some birds.
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    Confess I've not seen any change WRT focusing speed after installing FW1.5. Very notable is IS silence between shots, it now fires up when you half-press the shutter to focus. It's also supposed to help wth the camera freezing after going into auto-sleep mode, but it's impossible to prove the absence of an occasional behavior.

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    Regarding AF with FT lenses.
    I was actually very pleasantly surprised how well it focused with 70-300 and 40-150.

    I know 70-300 was never a fast focus lens, but on OMD it's almost as good as on classic DSLR.
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    FWIW both those lenses are CDAF-compatible, as are the 14-42, 25 and 14-54 mkII. In the case of the kit lenses, I think a firmware update is also needed.

    Did some shooting with the 7-14 on the E-M5 last week and it was decently responsive and seemed faster if I used the rear display touch focus. It locked without wandering. Still not as fast as on an E body, but UWA doesn't necessarily rely on blazing focus.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick_D View Post
    FWIW both those lenses are CDAF-compatible, as are the 14-42, 25 and 14-54 mkII. In the case of the kit lenses, I think a firmware update is also needed.

    Did some shooting with the 7-14 on the E-M5 last week and it was decently responsive and seemed faster if I used the rear display touch focus. It locked without wandering. Still not ase fast as on an E body, but UWA doesn't necessiraly rely on blazing focus.

    Cheers,

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    You mean the ZD 7-14? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Bradley View Post
    Still, 35-100mm does not equal 50-200mm, and 14-35mm does not equal 14-54mm, no mater how you cut it.
    They don't equal when looking at the zoom range; but they are equals and stand up when you compare them to Canon and Nikons 24-70mm f/2.8 and 70-200mm f/2.8. It doesn't matter to the average guy that the ZD alternatives are better; it's only our tiny inte group who know that.
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    Yup, the 4/3 7-14. Pairs pretty nicely with the E-M5 and at f:8 there's a lot of detail.

    I keep reading about unusual flare issues with the E-M5 and Lumix 7-14--don't know if there's anything to it or it's simple internet panic. So far there's nothing similar to report with this combination--just the typical "string of beads" flare I see with the E bodies.

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    Many thanks for the replies-
    It looks like I will be ok with the lenses I have now(14-54 50-200)
    as they will work with an adapter although from the posts with slower
    focus times-
    Time to get rid of the E5-
    Thanks again to all for the pointers-=
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeinalexandria View Post
    The OMD is still on 1.1 firmware. New firmware 1.5 is supposed to help with auto focus on 4/3 thirds lenses. That said, Imhad my 50-200mm F2.8 mounted on the OMD and it worked fine. I was photographing the moon and some birds.
    FWIW, none of the E-M5 firmware updates change AF with 4/3 lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomsi42 View Post
    @Alan, you are aware of the two new zooms from Panasonic - 12-35mm f/2.8 and 35-100mm f/2.8? I don't think they fit the "optically pretty poor" category.
    No, but I think they are overpriced for the IQ they have. On the other hand, I expect a large part of the price is driven by the constant aperture, not the level of IQ. I'd rather have variable aperture and highter IQ myself if I am going to shell out that kind of dough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by olddigiman View Post
    No, but I think they are overpriced for the IQ they have. On the other hand, I expect a large part of the price is driven by the constant aperture, not the level of IQ. I'd rather have variable aperture and highter IQ myself if I am going to shell out that kind of dough.
    If I compare them to lenses it is natural to compare them with; I don't think they are overpriced. They are more expensive than Olympus HG lenses, but cheaper than the SHG lenses. The 12-35mm is priced at same level as the old Canon 24-70mm f/2.8 and the new Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 VC. And to my eye; the 12-35mm can hold it's own to those lenses.
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    I rented the 12-35 for a recent trip. I certainly think it's a step up in overall IQ compared with the 12-50 and I may purchase at some point. I'd say the optical quality is about like the Zuiko 12-60, but it's hard to compare across bodies. I'd prefer a m43 version of the 12-60 or 14-54. . I'd sacrifice constant aperture for a broader zoom range. So the lens didn't become a must buy immediately but I do really like a good normal zoom for hiking and travel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olddigiman View Post
    No, but I think they are overpriced for the IQ they have. On the other hand, I expect a large part of the price is driven by the constant aperture, not the level of IQ. I'd rather have variable aperture and highter IQ myself if I am going to shell out that kind of dough.
    IMO, they are not going to be overpriced for very long. The 12-35 already got a $200 discount like what, 4 months after release? And used ones go for as low as $750.

    Now, of course, the 12-60 used goes for as low as $400 but that's more because of people abandoning the 4/3 system. A brand new 12-60 costs $999 which is only slightly less than the 12-35 and a year from now will probably be the same as the 12-35, and you have to remember that the 12-60 is f/4 @ 60mm, not exactly a speed demon.

    The 35-100 is undoubtedly overpriced, but it is brand new and out of stock, and like the 12-35 will probably drop in price soon enough.
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    Agree the fast Panny zoom prices seem rather dear. Am more interested in the 35-100, as it plugs a more important hole in my system lens collection (shorter primes have the other zoom range well covered) but it's going to have to come down some before I consider it. By then, it's possible Oly will roll out some higher end zooms, once ther're done fleshing out the prime lineup. Of course, a camera-based CPDAF resolution will change things rather dramatically WRT lenses.

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    You mean PDAF? The EM-5 already has CDAF. PDAF would be a nice bonus in regards to 43rd lenses, but I'd really like to see Olympus design some native high-end zooms to keep the size and weight more in line with m43 bodies. PDAF may however, be a necessity for competitive C-AF. Oly has finally made some leeway in high ISO performance, it's far past time they make some leaps and bounds in C-Af as well.
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    Yup, that's what I meant to type. Stupid fingers.
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