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    Default Hawk Owls

    Not sure what to think of these...I'm becoming very obsessed with sharpness. I think they are decent, but not sure how to improve. They are on a tripod at a pretty high shutter speed of 1/1000 and 1/640. Perhaps I should shoot more in shutter priority mode and ISO auto at 1/1000 or 1/2000 to keep shake to a minimum? Or are these decent and I'm being obsessive?
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    Default Re: Hawk Owls

    Well, they are sharp enough but everything else is off

    Are you shooting in raw ? Is this sooc ?

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    I would be happy just to see one of those guys

    Still think you should switch to manual, open that lens up and shoot as fast as you can and not rely on the camera metering, especially on EM1 where you can see in the EVF what your settings are doing.
    that bright cloudy background will mess up camera metering even in spot... worse than a bright sunny day
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    Default Re: Hawk Owls

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Kondra View Post
    Well, they are sharp enough but everything else is off

    Are you shooting in raw ? Is this sooc ?

    Cheers, Don
    Yep, it's RAW, so I can go back and work on the images some.
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    Okay, first of all why would you even bother with such a small exposure comp on a raw image ?

    Secondly, it appears you have applied a sepia (?) filter to the images. They are dull and lack contrast.

    IMO the captures, especially #3 are fine but post processing can use some work...

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    Default Re: Hawk Owls

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Kondra View Post
    Okay, first of all why would you even bother with such a small exposure comp on a raw image ?

    Secondly, it appears you have applied a sepia (?) filter to the images. They are dull and lack contrast.

    IMO the captures, especially #3 are fine but post processing can use some work...

    Cheers, Don
    Thanks...I'll have to tweak them bait. No sepia filter, just a "cloudy" white balance in Adobe RAW, and a "darken/lighten center" filter from Nik software. And though I should know this, what is meant by "exposure comp?" I'm guessing that I had it set to +.3 is what you mean, to slightly overexpose? Good point, no need to do that on a RAW image.
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    Nice clicks. How did you do the last pic? Did you clean the bg?

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    to me, it looks like the sky blew your exposure and you raised the shadows a bunch to get some detail
    in the bird. Results, lack of sharpness, lots of noise, & possible over use of unsharp mask-
    a guess base on the crunchy looking background(s)
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    If you are ever interested in doing so Paul, I'd like to have a go at postprocessing one of your straight RAW shots in OV3 and PS. If you have enough time to upload one to me directly or to a 3rd party site where I can download it, feel free.

    I agree. Something is a bit off here once again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zippski View Post
    If you are ever interested in doing so Paul, I'd like to have a go at postprocessing one of your straight RAW shots in OV3 and PS. If you have enough time to upload one to me directly or to a 3rd party site where I can download it, feel free.

    I agree. Something is a bit off here once again.

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    Default Re: Hawk Owls

    If the eye is sharp, then the photograph is sharp. Example, image #3. The eye in most cases is what you want to focus on.

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    well that's odd, 3 of them look better than they did yesterday when I commented.
    Maybe the interzweb had a hitch.
    Agree with Ned, # 3 looks the best to me, but maybe better processing. I'd let some of the
    pros have a whack at it.
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    Default Re: Hawk Owls

    I have not been impressed with what I get out of E-M1 orfs with OV3 compared to LR5.3.

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    Well, the first pic is 1200mm equiv shot at 1/640, so yes that is probably motion blur, could be just motion blur from pressing the shutter (do you use a remote?). I would open the aperture another stop and use higher ISO. In my opinion, its better to have more noise than motion blur. If you do that you get 4x shutter speed and 1/2500 to 1/3200. Maybe even 2x is enough.

    Also the WB is all screwed up, everything is yellow. One easy way to check for correct white balance is to check if white parts are still white. If you don't have good lighting (like yellow sunrise/sunset light) you cannot overcome that by changing the WB.

    Shooting f/8 on a cloudy day at 1200mm is going to be a challenge (on whatever system, btw). I would look into improving technique to get closer.
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    Default Re: Hawk Owls

    I've come back to these a few times now and have to say that they are all quite soft with no feather detail at all. If I was a serious birder I'd not be happy with them!

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