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    Default Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Hello, can anyone tell me if the combo mentionned in the title works well, what are your impressions... Also, if you have sample images with 100% detail... Thanks!
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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Quote Originally Posted by Viperman500 View Post
    Hello, can anyone tell me if the combo mentionned in the title works well, what are your impressions... Also, if you have sample images with 100% detail... Thanks!
    I've had the 50-200 pre-SWD with both the EC-14 and EC-20 teleconverters (twice since 2007...). It's an excellent performer overall.
    With the EC-14, there's virtually no degradation of the lens' quality in any significant way that I can detect. I use this combination a lot.

    With the EC-20, I did see some degradation. Plus, with a two stop reduction in the lens speed, it's harder to hand-hold and the feel of the EC-20 just didn't match the EC-14 for me. I ended up selling the EC-20 pretty quickly after I obtained it. 283mm is long enough for my shooting needs. :-)

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I've had the 50-200 pre-SWD with both the EC-14 and EC-20 teleconverters (twice since 2007...). It's an excellent performer overall.
    With the EC-14, there's virtually no degradation of the lens' quality in any significant way that I can detect. I use this combination a lot.

    With the EC-20, I did see some degradation. Plus, with a two stop reduction in the lens speed, it's harder to hand-hold and the feel of the EC-20 just didn't match the EC-14 for me. I ended up selling the EC-20 pretty quickly after I obtained it. 283mm is long enough for my shooting needs. :-)

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    Do you have an OMD camera body to try with this combination of lenses and teleconverters? If so is the IS up to the need?

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    +1To what Godfrey said.
    I only have the SWD one. Here's one with the E-30 iso 200 1/400 @f8 400mm



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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Also agree with Godfrey. Sold my EC-20. Just didn't cut it optically. I was getting sharper images with an ancient Nikkor 400/5.6, which has been replaced with a Canon 400/5.6, which blows the Nik and the 50-200+EC-20 out of the water, albeit, MF.
    I seldom got anything any sharper with the 20 over up-resing a shot with the 14.

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Quote Originally Posted by clark666 View Post
    Do you have an OMD camera body to try with this combination of lenses and teleconverters? If so is the IS up to the need?
    I use the 50-200+EC-14 today on the E-M1. The IS works very well.

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    I use the 50-200+EC-14 today on the E-M1. The IS works very well.

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    . Thank you

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    The E-M1 IS is a dream. All there is to it!

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Yes, I can see the loss of sharpness... Ok thanks for the input, helps me make a decision!
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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Here's a sample image from a walk in the park with E-M1+50-200+EC14. Hand-held, of course.


    Olympus E-M1 + ZD 50-200mm + EC-14
    ISO 200 @ f/5.6 @ 1/500 @ 194mm
    A 1:1 detail:

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    The EC-14 is great on the original 50-200, either on 4/3 or m43.
    The EC-20 takes a lot more care to achieve a sharp image with that particular lens and I have never heard the SWD is better, but what I did not like was the noticeable increase in hunting.
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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Before I bought my ZD300mm, I tried using the 50-200mm-I with my EC-20. It is NOT a satisfactory combination for print or even the web in most cases for me. I guess it depends on your standards. Now the EC-20 with the 300mm or the 90-250mm? That combination is amazing even (or especially?) handheld.

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    I used the original 50-200 with the 2.0 TC. Body was the E-3.

    Iwas photographing moving subjects, aircraft, and conditions were typical for Europe, ie not that good. I was having a terrible day with the combo, but I took some shots of static subjects on the same day, and with enough time to focus, providing the subject stayed still and wasn't too far away, the results were perfectly good.
    so I'd say the is does ok, and iq were good enough too.
    The AF on the other hand was impossibly slow with much hunting.

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    I agree with everyone, this combo really doesnt cut it, I guess on a tripod and at a static object it will do OK, but if you want great IQ just stick with the EC14, I also sold my EC20 which I really only found usable on the 150MM F2 and after I sold that didnt nee didnt anymore
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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    I bought the EC-20 to work with the 50mm macro, in order to get 1:1 macro shots. It worked extremely well.

    All the other lenses didn't work well at all, with some pretty patchy results, so I guess it only really works with primes or the f/2 zooms.
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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    I remember getting good macro results with my Leicaflex Macro Elmarit-R 60/2.8 with the EC-20 in between. (E-620)


    This is a stack for DoF. The original was only about 10mm across.
    So maybe the EC-20 does perform better with shorter focal lengths, but doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose?

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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    I may be wrong, but think the EC-20 was designed primarily for the big lens, the 300/2.8. It surely works very well on that.
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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    I never tried the EC-20 with the 50 Macro, but I did use the EC-14 with it quite a bit. It worked best with the 50 Macro set to f/2.8 or smaller apertures.

    I've also used the EC-14 with the 35 Macro; again, stopped down to f/5.6 or smaller produces the best results. (This nets a 1.4:1 macro capability with decent working distance; useful!)

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    Yes I used it on my 50MM quite a bit also and it worked great as well, forgot about that, maybe I should have kept it just for that, but I guess 70MM F2.8 is good enough if I use the Ec14, and I have seen Kens results with it on the 300 F2.8
    so it seems it works well on any lens at F2.8 or faster
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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    I have the SWD version, but I think other than auto focus the lenses are pretty identical performance wise from what i've seen. It depends on the application, but I couldn't live without the EC20 in my tool kit. EC14 is also great to have..

    The advantage of these tele-converters (when getting closer is not an option) far outweighs the loss of light in my opinion. These are some quick samples, taken with the E-3 and combined with the EC20. The last is combined with EC14.

    Of course, I still love to get close enough to not need either one, as the 50-200 / 2.8 is magnificent. All these were hand-held, and I still pulled it off.









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    Default Re: Zuiko Digital 50-200 original (NON SWD)+ EC-20

    Nice catches, all. I'm just now getting accustomed to the 150+EC20 which, for now, I hope to be a stand-in for the upcoming 300/4. Have tons of experience with the 150+EC14 but am interested in the extra reach, if I can up my technique to match.

    Ironically, the 150+EC14 is supposed to be opened one stop to f:4, so there's no change in exposure parameters going to the 20.

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