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    Default EM-1 or EM-5II

    Might be going to switch entirely from 4/3 to m4/3. My E-3 war-house is rather dated and a more compact body would be nice. So I guess it's phase detection vs 40Mp, wildlife vs landscapes/studio. Before you say horses for courses, of course I want to do it all so what do you guys think is the best all rounder? I'm not too worried about price difference.
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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    Quote Originally Posted by BobT View Post
    Might be going to switch entirely from 4/3 to m4/3. My E-3 war-house is rather dated and a more compact body would be nice. So I guess it's phase detection vs 40Mp, wildlife vs landscapes/studio. Before you say horses for courses, of course I want to do it all so what do you guys think is the best all rounder? I'm not too worried about price difference.
    If you want best AF performance from the 12-60mm, 50-200mm, 50mm F2, and 25mm f2.8, you should go with the E-M1. Otherwise, if you're replacing your lenses too, go handle both bodies and see which you like more.

    I personally prefer the E-M1 as its control layout is simply better for my hands.

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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    Pretty early in the E-M5ii's run to draw any definitive conclusions, although it's looking like a very good camera. If you wish to bring a 4/3 lens collection across formats then the E-M1 is still the only choice; otherwise, there are enough improvements that I'd probably lean towards the 5ii (as an E-M1 and M-5 owner myself).

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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    Like others have said above, if you want to use 4/3 lenses, pick the E-M1. Otherwise, pick the EM-5II
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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    Thanks guys. I hadn't considered the issue of using 4/3 lenses and therefore the E-M1. I was looking for a clean break from 4/3 but I might have a rethink.
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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    If you are worried about max resolution for landscape work: remember, even with "only" 16MP, even a lowly hand-held 3-frame panorama shot in vertical mode (which I can develop from RAW and stitch in about 5-10 minutes) renders a beautiful 3:2 ratio photo at about >40MP equivalency.

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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    Quote Originally Posted by zippski View Post
    If you are worried about max resolution for landscape work: remember, even with "only" 16MP, even a lowly hand-held 3-frame panorama shot in vertical mode (which I can develop from RAW and stitch in about 5-10 minutes) renders a beautiful 3:2 ratio photo at about >40MP equivalency.

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    Thanks Leigh,
    Which sticher do you use?
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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    I develop in OV3 then I photomerge in CS6. Elements is just as speedy and good for that as CS6. I shoot a LOT of landscape panoramas, and some of them turn out just beautiful IMHO, even using with the little XZ-2. I still have a bunch posted on this site, if you care to look

    I am not a huge fan of the panorama feature in OV3, but probably only because I have not used it much. There are free plugins on the web, including Hugin, and the new Microsft ICE. I have tried the latter and it is REALLY powerful and blazingly fast, but I am having difficulty getting it to seamlessly blend slight exposure differences. CS6 is amazing in that regard.

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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    It boils down to if you want to use your existing lenses or buy new ones...If you want to use your existing lenses, then the EM1 is really your only choice. If going with new lenses then the choice is a bit harder. I really like the ergonomics of the larger grip and RRS BOEM1 camera plate on the em1, but I've not held an EM5ii, so its really hard to say if I wouldn't like the em5ii compactness more.
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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    Agree completely with Leigh.
    Here is a shot from my 35MP E-M1

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    I use AutoPano Pro and it works VERY well and is VERY easy to use. I set the lens to 25mm whenever possible to reduce distortion.

    Here is another with my lowly old E-510 from 2009


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    Cool shots Daniel. I have some similar cow herd shots. CS^ is so good at stitching you can easily in most cases shoot non-still subjects like moving animals and waterfalls, and the blend mode miraculously erases the ghosted parts. My threshold in regard to what types of subject(s) you can shoot with a panorama have really broadened over the years. Now I shoot a lot of moving skiers in the mountains and it usually works great.



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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    Great shot. I think I remember seeing it before.?? Drool.... we had crap snow this year...
    Movement was an issue with one of the cows, but somehow AP Pro figured out which shot fit in better and the I do not see any sign of the bad one. But they were so curious about what the hell I say doing that they were quite still.
    I have heard good things about the CS pano and stacking functions, but I still have an older version without them. No need to upgrade. And also no need for a super WA lens! 14mm is the shortest I have (14-54 II). I usually prefer to pop off a quick pano than go too wide. Better detail and less CA and fringing. So quick and easy (and fun!) to do. So far I have mostly done only horizontal panoramas, but obviously the stitching software opens up a lot of other possibilities.

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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    Aside from the whole WA aspect, the question arises about what is going on inside the E-M5 II to cause this kind of result
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlGffGBz8uQ
    On still subjects, simply stacking a couple of shots can greatly boost detail and lower noise levels. And I am not even talking about focus stacking.

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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Bradley View Post
    Aside from the whole WA aspect, the question arises about what is going on inside the E-M5 II to cause this kind of result
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlGffGBz8uQ
    On still subjects, simply stacking a couple of shots can greatly boost detail and lower noise levels. And I am not even talking about focus stacking.
    Wow! This could be a deal breaker. Seems to me the E-M5II has a chance of capturing some of the Hasselblad still life market but that's probably not what Olympus was after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobT View Post
    Wow! This could be a deal breaker. Seems to me the E-M5II has a chance of capturing some of the Hasselblad still life market but that's probably not what Olympus was after.
    Hmmmm!

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    Default Re: EM-1 or EM-5II

    I decided I will wait for em1 rev2.
    It will have all bells and whistles of em5 but with ability to use it with my primary 4/3 glass.
    I find waiting oneor even two generations can make me justify buying a new camera.
    The way i see evolution, ep1 was first mirrorless, ep3 had fast focusing, em5 or epl5 had 16mp sensor and now em2 will have high res, better viewfinder, is and 4/3 capability AND something else (since every new body brings in a new feature).

    I use gx7 the most though...it just does everything i want the easiest way. I dont think panasonic will come out with camera so good in so many things.
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