E-M1 Mark II

[Daniel Bradley]

First leaked photo:


http://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-im...#disqus_thread

[Edmunds]

What I really wanna know is what's inside. Is it the same sensor as the Pen-F? Or something new?

[Edmunds]

OK, so somebody posted a leaflet in spanish on flickr.

Apprently, we're getting

• 121 phase detect points
• 18 frames per second with CAF and 60 fps with SAF.
• 1 fstop better high ISO performance
• Better autofocus system overall, though of course it is difficult to quantify that

Also, Panasonic just released 3 new lenses,
8-18mm
12-60mm
50-200mm

all are f/2.8 - f/4.0

[Daniel Bradley]

Just watched the Photokina presentation. Pretty choppy presentation, but the camera looks great! If it does in fact offer 1 stop better ISO even with 4 MP more, I'm in! Revolutionary is the word of the day.
AF will definitely be better. ALL focus points are cross type, more of them, and better tracking. Compared to the E-M1's one single cross type point, that is a big improvement!
One thing they did NOT say is when they will start to deliver. It ain't gonna be cheap! They are talking about €2500 with the kit lens here, so I would figure the body alone will start at around €/$ 2000. Somewhere in the range of the new Nikon D-500, which no longer interests me if this baby turns out to be anywhere near what it seems to be. That is, PROVIDED it works with the Metabones adapter and Canon 400/5.6. Don't see why it wouldn't, but the question is going to be how much better than the Mark I.

Very interesting.... It seems that once again, Olympus really listens to what people say and want.

[wee man]

Or the price!

[Neil_jo]

It's listed on the Olympus site and B+H, but no shipping dates and price TBD. Fully articulating screen, 4k video, and a better viewfinder.
But new improved longer lasting batteries, I'm glad I only bought two as I have a feeling they will not work in the MK II.

Neil

[Edmunds]

The batteries are improved, but the camera now will have dual quad core processors which means it will also need more energy.

Honestly, with electronics getting more and more powerful its a big step forward if we get to have the same number of shots per battery as before.

[Phinehas]

I was kinda hoping it would have GPS.

[BobT]

I was kinda hoping it would have GPS.

I'm glad you mentioned that. My overwhelming desire to upgrade is now not quite so overwhelming.

[Neil_jo]

I just hope with the new viewfinder that we won't have the same issue with the green spots. I've had it repaired once and have two more spots now. I will send it back in soon. I got the extended warranty after the first time and was told by my camera shop that if it happens a third time my camera will be deemed a lemon and I'll get a brand new one or I can get the new MK II and pay the difference. Here's hoping for some sunny days.

[Daniel Bradley]

GPS? .... don't need it. I usually know where I was when I took a picture.

As for the viewfinder... I am also very curious about whether or not they have done anything about it, and it would be SO SIMPLE to prevent. My third EVF replacement was two years ago and I took lots of care to prevent the spots. Since I made an IR filter for the eyepiece*, I have had no further problems and I take ZERO precautions to protect the EVF. All they would have to do is coat the glass with an IR blocking coating, or use IR blocking glass. So simple....
* http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/thr...-problem/page2 post #38

[Michael Meissner]

Besides the green spot issue, I would hope the E-M1 mark II uses an OLED viewfinder like Olympus uses in the E-M10 mark II and the Pen F, rather than a TFT viewfinder like they do in the E-M1 mark I, E-M5 (both), and E-M10 mark I. With an OLED viewfinder, you can look at it with polarized sunglasses and be able to see it. While the standard LCD/LED monitor is polarized and you have trouble seeing it in some orientations. I can see somewhat on the E-M5 mark I and E-M1 mark I but the polarization effect is much worse on the E-M5 mark II.

So far, I have not found what Olympus is going to do for the E-M1 mark II (none of the documentation explicitly says OLED, but I know OLED is faster reacting, so given one of the things they are doing with the E-M1 mark II is have the refresh rate much faster on the EVF, I'm hoping they are using OLED under the covers).

Note, the new Panasonic G-85 also has an OLED viewfinder (and IBIS). So when it comes out, I'm going to give it a look see (at the moment, I'm tending to think about picking up an E-M10 mark II for bright sun work). Since the E-M1 mark II will use different batteries, it might make it easier to go Panasonic this round.

Edit December 12, 2016
Since this thread is still going on, I have tested the E-M1 mark II in the store, and it uses an LCD for the viewfinder similar to the E-M1 mark I, and you get areas of the screen that are opaque when viewed with polarized sunglasses.

I bought a Panasonic G85 because it is weather sealed like my E-M1 mark I and E-M5 mark I, it has IBIS support for my Olympus lenses, and it has an OLED viewfinder. The OLED viewfinder is viewable in either orientation with polarized sunglasses. The back LCD however is not viewable when you are shooting in portrait orientation. Since I primarily do live view in landscape orientation, it wasn't that much of an issue for me.

[BobT]

GPS? .... don't need it. I usually know where I was when I took a picture.

Point taken, however, when I'm taking a macro of an endangered native plant, I like to be able find it again in other seasons. I've tried hand held devices but the effort of integrating the image with the data is ridiculously complex. I now use the Map feature of Lightroom but I need to remember exactly where I've been in the bush then try to find it on a Google satellite image. If the GPS data could be recorded into EXIF with just the press of the shutter button, what a boon that would be? I may have to wait for an E-M1 III.

[Daniel Bradley]

Good point.

[BobT]

Good point.

If you're offering me a Gösser, you're on!

[tomsi42]

If you're offering me a Gösser, you're on!

Gut, Besser, Gösser

[Daniel Bradley]

Sure, my place? Any time!


... but Gösser? Hmmmmm.... there ARE better.

[tomsi42]

... but Gösser? Hmmmmm.... there ARE better.

Oh yes. But there are also worse

[BobT]

Sure, my place? Any time!


... but Gösser? Hmmmmm.... there ARE better.

So what's your poison? My folks in Steiermark like Murauer.

[Guy Roberts]

GPS? .... don't need it. I usually know where I was when I took a picture.

I would like GPS coordinates on photographs when I am travelling. I am afraid to use my phone because of the roaming charges, so I try to make a note of where I was at the time. If built in GPS gets past this problem then it would be a boon for me.
Like with this shot in the Ogwen Valley in North Wales, I had to look up where I was on the map and make a note of it, but having gone from North Wales to Cumbria and taken a lot of shots, matching photos to notes is a pain.
BTW the 4/3 7-14mm gave a lot of trouble to find focus on the EM1 so in the end I put it on manual.
Does anyone have the m4/3 version of this lens and is it better at focussing?

[Daniel Bradley]

I like Murauer better than Gösser. Our favorites are Wieselburger and a little known beer from Pilsen called Samson, which is richer and smoother than any of the Austrian beers for 1/3 less the price.
Now, you tell me what this has to do with the E-M1 II! *
Prost..... ....burp....


*... other than suggesting what to do until it hits the shelves.....

[Gunn]

Oh for a "real" bottle of Schwarze Katz wine. Where in lived in Germany the water was not very good so I HAD to drink beer and wine. I was a bleary eyed teenager. Not a teenager now but........

[Guy Roberts]

I like the new breed of beer like Blue Moon in the USA or Hopping Hare in the UK. Micro breweries have made everything a lot more interesting imo

[Daniel Bradley]

Right you are.
Of course you all know why American beer is like sex in a canoe...?

[Gunn]

Right you are.
Of course you all know why American beer is like sex in a canoe...?

HaHaHa!